Reduce GB/WM Cast-Time to 1s (or instant)

[Chibilidawg]

The title explains it all.

I know you'll probably choose to buff their damage-bonus instead to 30%... but that wouldn't solve the issue that it feels really poopy to have to wait 3s to apply them both. It's boring, sorry, but I just want to be transparent with you (SE).

Though, ultimately, I would much rather WM not exist.

I like GB for MCH, but not WM for BRD.

I loathe that this was the particular design-choice made to constrain BRD's dps while mobile (or deincentivize it).

SE, I really honestly think you should reconsider this choice.

Plenty of other ways to permit a BRD's freedom of movement while constraining its dps in another fashion.

You stole away the exciting niche & interesting aspect of BRD (to a lesser fashion /w NIN too by giving it more positionals).

Giving this function to both BRD & MCH really detracts from what could be very special & unique about the two Jobs.

P.S. I've got a better design for BRD that satisfies what they were going for... but am out of time at the moment to outline it. Please post your suggestions for SE to redesign BRD appropriately in the meantime!

[Lyaha]

Remove it, it should never have existed.

[kirk]

Remove WM it can burn -.-

[StrejdaTom]

Yeah, when implementing class changing stuff like this I would expect them atleast to make it useful. From what all 60 BRDs say it seems that WM is not even worth it except popping it to initiate rotation.

I really can't see myself stopping during raidfight for 3 seconds only to pop WM for a few skills and then put it off again, because it is not even worth having it on all the time (20% buff is not enough).

[KyteStones]

just wow...the amount of complaints for a buff for a bardskill is insane. Try being a caster and being anchored down all fights yet we still put out with it. Oh no, you have one skill that you have to stand still for.

No one is making you use it.

While we're at it, lets make Fire 1&3 an instant cast so I can run around and spam that and only have to stand still for blizzard 3. No one makes you use it, and clearly the ones creating this thread have no idea how to properly use the class to its full potential with the new skill.

[Souljacker]

Because all the ranged jobs should play exactly the same, amirite?

[Sylve]

What i don't get is why Bards feel the need to run around in circles while DPSing.
Speaking as a level 50 Bard and 55 Machinist, even without the Cast times, NEVER did i feel the need to run around in circles while shooting.

[Souljacker]

I think the original intent in regards to mobility was so that bards could put up songs on the fly and move to whatever people needed that particular song. They never got really in-depth with the "bard" part of the job (sadly) so that is likely why they decided on this design change.

I don't agree that bard should be made more like black mage and that sounds like exactly what happened. Bards should be designed more like, well, BARDS. Without a true support slot though - we'll see more of this kind of homogenization.

[StrejdaTom]

It is not about mobility. BRD has many Off global cooldown skills that can be used poorly with the new stance. Also that the stance is almost not worth it damage wise.
I would not mind being made into caster, if I actually pulled off caster-like DPS.

[Lyaha]

just wow...the amount of complaints for a buff for a bardskill is insane. Try being a caster and being anchored down all fights yet we still put out with it. Oh no, you have one skill that you have to stand still for.

No one is making you use it.

While we're at it, lets make Fire 1&3 an instant cast so I can run around and spam that and only have to stand still for blizzard 3. No one makes you use it, and clearly the ones creating this thread have no idea how to properly use the class to its full potential with the new skill.

We chose our class for it's play style, not to be a BLM, we have to use it, it blocks out the other abilities!

Many of our abilities were not designed with cast time in mind, nor do we want them to be, we just want to play our bard.