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    Quote Originally Posted by dank1 View Post
    Lol you got gauged when you bought a mac, not when you bought FF. Gg get wrecked
    You don't think that was rude? Some of us like mac osx, and apple computers are very nice in both function and design. Not to mention, when you own other Apple devices then they work together very well. I can even send a text message from my iMac. I think you need to accept that different people have different values.
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    instead of saying you suck for getting a mac (Honestly i love macs i have one at work, great machine), just bootcamp, wait until they fix the mac version and if you still like the game and the client work as intended then buy the licence. (if you want)

    Play it in bootcamp and wait for the best.

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    Macs are just not for gaming. Macs are... well, for design and basic functions. I personally hate them, but they aren't "bad" computers. Personally, I prefer Linux of the three, but never would I ever think of gaming on a Linux. I know better.

    We have preferences... you know, like races and classes. But would you go into a dungeon with a full party of white mages, thinking you'd clear it? Macs are not made for gaming. You buy it knowing that. Therefore, if you try to make it work and it fails, don't blame the game.

    Unless it's unplayable, like currently. Then you complain. But if you buy a mac for gaming, you are buying the inferior system of the available systems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aileesan View Post
    Macs are just not for gaming. Macs are... well, for design and basic functions. I personally hate them, but they aren't "bad" computers. Personally, I prefer Linux of the three, but never would I ever think of gaming on a Linux. I know better.

    We have preferences... you know, like races and classes. But would you go into a dungeon with a full party of white mages, thinking you'd clear it? Macs are not made for gaming. You buy it knowing that. Therefore, if you try to make it work and it fails, don't blame the game.

    Unless it's unplayable, like currently. Then you complain. But if you buy a mac for gaming, you are buying the inferior system of the available systems.
    This is probably the most ridiculous post in this thread. You claim to like Linux, and then state OSX is for "design and basic function". Are you even aware OSX 10.10 is a fully certified UNIX03 operating system? It literally can do everything a Linux machine can do. Also, the claim that Macs are not made for gaming is equally ridiculous. It's Intel machine with an NVidia graphics card, literally the same hardware in any gaming machine. WoW, Diablo III, Bioshock 2, Guild Wars 2 are AAA games that run just fine on it. The issue here is the port was done poorly. All Square did was contract to Trangaming to wrap the Windows client in Cedega and be done with it.

    Another claim I've heard is that OSX is a stranger to SE, which is equally ludicious. They have a significant amount of games and app on the App Store for iOS.

    This has nothing to do with OSX, and everything to do with a sloppy job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delily View Post
    This is probably the most ridiculous post in this thread. You claim to like Linux, and then state OSX is for "design and basic function". Are you even aware OSX 10.10 is a fully certified UNIX03 operating system? It literally can do everything a Linux machine can do.
    I like Linux. I prefer it because I:
    A) Hate Apple as a company
    B) Hate Adobe.
    C) Numerous other reasons that come with working with it professionally as an artist.

    Be nice. I Like Linux because I don't deal with stuff I dislike dealing with. And obviously, porting and programming is crap for Mac/ Linux. So you know, there's that.

    And if it's so sloppy, there are applications to join Square and fix it. Just saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aileesan View Post
    I like Linux . I prefer it because I:
    A) Hate Apple as a company
    B) Hate Adobe.
    C) Numerous other reasons that come with working with it professionally as an artist.

    Be nice. I Like Linux because I don't deal with stuff I dislike dealing with. And obviously, porting and programming is crap for Mac/ Linux. So you know, there's that.

    And if it's so sloppy, there are applications to join Square and fix it. Just saying.
    If you don't like OSX because of Apple, that's fine. As you said, everyone has their preferences. However, your argument was that Macs are "inferior for gaming", which makes no sense, seeing as how they have the same hardware as a Windows "gaming machine", and there have been quite a few AAA games that have OSX clients that run just fine.

    Additionally, the last I checked, Steam built SteamOS from Debian, and the Source 2 engine fully supports Linux and OSX. My stance on this is that client is fairly priced, the iMac and Macbooks are more than up to the task of running a 2 year old game, but Transgaming failed big time. (They also did the GW2 client).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delily View Post
    Your argument was that Macs are "inferior for gaming", which makes no sense, seeing as how they have the same hardware as a Windows "gaming machine", and there have been quite a few AAA games that have OSX clients that run just fine.
    Of course MAC has the hardware to run the games. Pretty much any company nowadays can strap a good CPU/GPU combo and call it a day.

    People say Macs are inferior to gaming for two reasons:

    1) Said gaming-capable hardware is completely overpriced. You are essentially paying extra to do what everyone else does normally. If you are on a budget, any regular PC machine will outperform a price-equivalent Mac. Heck, some Laptops offer similar or more power than desktop Macs in a price-by-price comparison, without counting all the extra goodness that being mobile offers.

    2) It is very well known that most companies don't bother porting or properly maintaining games on Mac. Going to Mac expecting all the companies to support you akin to going to Google+ and expecting everyone to swap from Facebook so you can still talk to your friends. Heck, that is a pretty good comparison: Google+ was probably much better than FB, but nobody was there, so nobody wanted to go there. Mac is the same issue (Except for the being better part), so gamers stay clear of Macs.

    This is why Mac is inferior for gaming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aileesan View Post
    Macs are just not for gaming. Macs are... well, for design and basic functions. I
    We have preferences... you know, like races and classes. Macs are not made for gaming. You buy it knowing that. Therefore, if you try to make it work and it fails, don't blame the game.

    Unless it's unplayable, like currently. Then you complain. But if you buy a mac for gaming, you are buying the inferior system of the available systems.
    I think the real problem is just the method they used. Rather than creating a mac client, they used the windows client in a wrapper, and one that isn't working properly at the moment at that. Some macs have excellent hardware for gaming, and Apple is going to make it even better soon with metal in el capitan this fall. The one thing they can't do is convince devs to spend the extra cost for a proper mac client rather than a jury rigged hack of the Windows version at low cost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sakei View Post
    I think the real problem is just the method they used. Rather than creating a mac client, they used the windows client in a wrapper, and one that isn't working properly at the moment at that. Some macs have excellent hardware for gaming, and Apple is going to make it even better soon with metal in el capitan this fall. The one thing they can't do is convince devs to spend the extra cost for a proper mac client rather than a jury rigged hack of the Windows version at low cost.
    This is true. Programming, cost of porting, etc are really what make the Macs so much more "inferior" to PC for gaming.
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