I was going to continue playing this game...

[h0tNstilettos]

"Again, not all games are like WoW and not all sites are like Battle.net. RIFT is the same way as it is here. Even though I have the game and an account (which I had before the game went F2P so I had a sub), I had to register to use the forums. Perhaps Blizzard is the odd one out here? Just a thought!"

That's fine but WoW is the benchmark when it comes to mmorpg. Maybe Square Enix will learn from Blizzard. It seems the odd one out is the highest earner with the most subs consistently for a reason.

Look, I'm sorry you are having this issue. I really am. BUT, WoW is no longer the benchmark for MMOs. WoW use to be the benchmark for MMOs until FFXIV. Sometime prior to Heavensward FFXIV had around 2.5 million active and growing. WoW has so many subs mostly due to nostalgia. Most of them are the same players that have played WoW since the glory days that keep coming back hoping their beloved game will return to that glory with expansion and wanting to continue experiencing that game they fell in love with. Basically, it's similar to Stockholme Syndrome in a way where Blizzard basically grabbed people at one point and continues to hold the majority of them hostage, and even though they lost that magic, people still want to support them and love them no matter what they do. WoD was one of the worst expansions in MMO history, but despite that the next expansion after it will still bring millions back to try it. And if you frequented the battle.net wow forums and other sites after the 3 million drop in subs, the largest portion of those subs jumped ship to FFXIV, while the smaller portions all went to other MMOs. And now the flying from FFXIV Heavensward that also caused many to jump ship from WoW to here, has now forced Blizzard's hand on putting flying back in and handling it different this time in an attempt to bring people back. If WoW was released on the market today instead of 10 years ago, it would not have as many subs as FFXIV. And if trends do continue and WoW's population continues to drop while FFXIV's continue to grow, then FFXIV's current subs may surpass WoW's current subs, though it seems unlikely as I believe nostalgia alone will still keep WoW atop. FFXIV is the better MMO on so many levels, which is why many WoW vets of 10 years say it reminds them of the vanilla WoW they miss, except with a FF skin. Many of them refer to it as the new WoW. It is also the most successful pay to play MMO of all time since WoW. Only thing WoW has on FFXIV really is PVP, which is still better than FFXIV until Yoshi and them expand on the PVP. As for the Mac client thing, a game as old as WoW does not work the same as modern games. There are more difficulties and work involved with such things, especially in a game that never had plans for a Mac version, but with the insane popularity of the game and how many people wish they could play it, they decided to do a Mac version. It costs money to do that, a lot more than say a game like WoW. Mac is cruddy and difficult to work with. And that's all I have to say on the topic. I also did not say any of this as a biased FF fan, I said it as someone that has played MMOs since the late 90s and keep tabs on MMO popularity and trends.

[Kyonika]

Anyone else laugh really hard to the fact he games actively on a Mac?
I mean what games can you even play on Mac besides WoW?
MineSweeper? Lmfao.

I'm actually not laughing. If the Mac can run the game fine, then why not?

SE got into a Mac port cuz lots of ppl have gotten Macs, and lots of ppl are getting them, and even young girls are practically screaming at their parents to buy them one - cuz they're cool, and also thanks to EDM DJs and producers, I think.

I got a MBP cuz "hurr durr .. I can makes music and DJ too lel." Cuz of that, I'm tempted to buy a Mac version of this game just to see how good it would sound on my "studio gear", and to do some video/audio capture for YouTube and official contests SE has from time to time.

[Mhikail]

Mac's are cool. I like Mac, but they aren't for gaming.
They are for designer software, like Photoshop and business plans.
It's hard as hell to even hack a Mac.
Be happy they have a Mac client for people to play.
It's two different beasts. Tis why why it says "Windows PC" version of the game.
Mac don't have Windows unless you bootcamp or whatever you need to do with it.
I'd stick to what you got if you have the option here.

[Cirgellon]

I got a MBP cuz "hurr durr .. I can makes music and DJ too lel." Cuz of that, I'm tempted to buy a Mac version of this game just to see how good it would sound on my "studio gear", and to do some video/audio capture for YouTube and official contests SE has from time to time.

Why not is proven by this thread. You will run into problems with Mac and many games aren't supported at all. This is why you have things like Bootcamp on your Mac. You have to use Windows because Mac isn't friendly to developers of software. I know because I write software.

Having a seperate Mac that you decide to run some games on can make sense. Being a gamer and only having a Mac will never make sense. You are just making your life difficult and paying much more to do so.

[Delily]

And? You are the one that brought Hardware being on equal grounds as an argument. I was stating that it is clearly not on equal grounds, since one is costing nearly double. And since money can be directly translated into performance (Up to a point), any piece of hardware that costs more than its equal is worse by default.

Your entire claim was that the hardware was subpar because of the price point. If I pay $200 for an I7 or I pay $300 for an I7, that has no bearing on the performance of the chips. It changes the ratio performance to cost, but as I purchased a Mac that's not a metric I am concerned with.

Ad populum means that because a mass believes it, it must be true. It has absolutely nothing to do with what I said, which is that MAC has problems attracting game companies and keeping their support, which is pretty much an undeniable fact. My argument is that because of this issues, anyone who has gaming in mind will play on the platform with games. This is the same thing with consoles, they only go as far as the developers make/port games to their system.

Again, with the FB/Google+ analogy, anyone who wants to go to Google+ pretty much does it out of spite to FB, love for google, desire to try something new, or they genuinely believe it to be better. But almost no one will go for it because "all their friends are there!". Likewise, no gamer will buy a Mac because "All the games are there!".

It is? The game selection on OSX may not be as expansive as Windows (currently), that much I'll agree to. I won't agree with the claim that OSX has a hard time attracting game companies, especially as it is the only desktop/laptop market with any significant growth. Blizzard released clients for OSX for all of their products, Rocksteady is releasing Arkham Knight on OSX. Searching the Steam store for games reveals over 4000 entries. There is significant interest to warrant the investment. People may not buy a Mac for gaming, but the claim that Macs are not good for gaming is simply not true any more.

It's funny because your own argument is the one invalid here. SE hasn't dropped or stopped MAC support, and I don't see why you are complaining about this case in particular. The OP wanted to double dip Windows/Mac clients, and anyone who has actually bought this game should remember there being a warning sign that it will only work for the platform you buy.

Heck, that he first chose windows over his mac out of convenience speaks volumes of the issue.

My complaint is that I fully expect SE to release functioning client for OSX. Given that the game industry has become "release crap and then patch", I should have known better.

[Sakei]

Mac's are cool. I like Mac, but they aren't for gaming.
They are for designer software, like Photoshop and business plans.
It's hard as hell to even hack a Mac.
Be happy they have a Mac client for people to play.
It's two different beasts. Tis why why it says "Windows PC" version of the game.
Mac don't have Windows unless you bootcamp or whatever you need to do with it.
I'd stick to what you got if you have the option here.

Right now it runs so poorly they do not have a mac client to play. They are only charging for one.

[Noshpan]

Having to purchase a special MAC version of a program has been a thing for, well, decades. This is nothing new. At all.

I do wish that, if I wanted to play via Steam, that I didn't have to buy the licence again. Ah well, I see why they did it. C'est la vie.

[Magusrex]

OP...Go punch a baby, you will feel better.

[SakuraMidori]

Maybe get some frys with your big mac? JK had to say it

[Kyros]

Your entire claim was that the hardware was subpar because of the price point. If I pay $200 for an I7 or I pay $300 for an I7, that has no bearing on the performance of the chips. It changes the ratio performance to cost, but as I purchased a Mac that's not a metric I am concerned with.

Yes, I am aware that Mac owners typically have no regards for money, otherwise they wouldn't be making such poor monetary decisions. Also, I never stated that the hardware would perform worse, and yes, it has everything to do with performance to cost ratio. It literally means that an equally priced Mac will always under-perform to an equally priced PC.

If your argument is "Lol, I have so much money that I'm at the point where money doesn't translate into performance anymore", then this is more an argument about wealthy people having poor value perception more than it is about a true comparison of performance.

Searching the Steam store for games reveals over 4000 entries.

This is a very poor metric actually. 12,150 for PC vs 4125 on MAC for my country, about 33%. This isn't even counting that games on steam are the most likely to have a Mac port.

And even then, how much of that 33% was released on par with the PC version, or is ported correctly, or patched simultaneously? Typically Mac games receive a port after a game is successful enough to afford it, or the company in question is big enough to do so from the begging. This are just layers upon layers of why gaming on Mac is a horrible experience, and why most Mac users just play their games on boot camp.

My complaint is that I fully expect SE to release functioning client for OSX. Given that the game industry has become "release crap and then patch", I should have known better.

This right here. This is the kind of experience anyone playing on a Mac has to deal with in almost every game, and you just spelled it out.