I was going to continue playing this game...

[Delily]

Yes, I am aware that Mac owners typically have no regards for money, otherwise they wouldn't be making such poor monetary decisions. Also, I never stated that the hardware would perform worse, and yes, it has everything to do with performance to cost ratio. It literally means that an equally priced Mac will always under-perform to an equally priced PC.

If your argument is "Lol, I have so much money that I'm at the point where money doesn't translate into performance anymore", then this is more an argument about wealthy people having poor value perception more than it is about a true comparison of performance.

As you have no idea of my financial situation, my level of financial literacy, or my reasons for purchasing an iMac, leave the ad hominem attacks and stereotypes at the door. They serve no purpose in this discussion. My point was that for my parameters, the increased cost of performance was a good tradeoff. Even with that, this argument ignores the fact that this hardware has been more than capable of playing this game at full settings for almost a year now. Ait has for many people playing through Bootcamp. The hardware is not subpar for a 2 year old game.

This is a very poor metric actually. 12,150 for PC vs 4125 on MAC for my country, about 33%. This isn't even counting that games on steam are the most likely to have a Mac port.

And even then, how much of that 33% was released on par with the PC version, or is ported correctly, or patched simultaneously? Typically Mac games receive a port after a game is successful enough to afford it, or the company in question is big enough to do so from the begging. This are just layers upon layers of why gaming on Mac is a horrible experience, and why most Mac users just play their games on boot camp.

Yes, the game catalog for OS X is not as big and Windows. Despite that, more game companies are releasing OS X versions of their games.

This right here. This is the kind of experience anyone playing on a Mac has to deal with in almost every game, and you just spelled it out.

World of Warcraft, Diablo 3, Guild Wars 2, and Bioshock Infinite all worked just fine in OS X.

[Zeonx]

That's fine but WoW is the benchmark when it comes to mmorpg. Maybe Square Enix will learn from Blizzard. It seems the odd one out is the highest earner with the most subs consistently for a reason.

Never liked WoW and idk about learning from WoW, there is a game called Bless go look it up it has a ton of similar features in that game that FFXIV has.
I never liked WoW, I was more of a FFXI player, I always thought WoW should have been a free game.
played diablo 2 which was a much better game.


Also about you leaving saying they are losing a subscriber think about what you are saying.

Its not going to make them change their minds and another subscriber will replace you within the second you unsub.

WoW is old news also much better games are being released.

[Kyros]

My point was that for my parameters, the increased cost of performance was a good tradeoff.

I am well aware that you meant you where ok with paying for this because of your preference. Which is why I moved my argument on why such preferences have no place on a performance comparison. You can not use personal preferences as an argument and then be angry when someone addresses them.

For example, I very much prefer gaming laptops over desktops because I travel a lot. But if I where to use that preference to say that gaming laptops are equal in performance than desktops I will be promptly ridiculed. It is simply not true. While they can be overkill for almost every game out there, a similarly priced Desktop will stlll outperform it. They can still be a better buy, but never because they have the best performance.

Even with that, this argument ignores the fact that this hardware has been more than capable of playing this game at full settings for almost a year now. Ait has for many people playing through Bootcamp. The hardware is not subpar for a 2 year old game.

And why would that be relevant? We are not discussing if the games can be run, but how well it can run them and if they are available at all. Of course it can run it (I would be worried if it couldn't), but an equivalent PC would run it better.

World of Warcraft, Diablo 3, Guild Wars 2, and Bioshock Infinite all worked just fine in OS X.

WoW took years for Mac. Diablo I and II require you to run an emulator to get it working on Mac, and 1 out of 3 bioshocks working isn't a great record. And this are all pretty big companies, mind you.



Our points are simple: Mac Hardware under-performs in a fair comparison, and the game selection, on top of the game experience, is severely impaired. Not only are games seldom ported over, they are usually poorly ported. Most companies do a wrapper, or update the PC version over the MAC, or simply get bugs fixed at a slower pace. What is happening right now with Mac client being terrible is a story I've heard repeated so many times before.

Heck, here's a real life example of why gaming on Mac is so terrible: Me and my friends regularly play together in a friends house. He has a Mac Pro (Yes, the Black tower monster thing), while we typically bring our laptops.

My laptop is a $750, Windows 7, i7 second generation, Geforce 610m. His Pro is the >$2500 8-core Xeon E5, running on I believe dual FirePro D500 cards.

Which computer do you think can run more games on their native system based on this specs? The answer: My crappy Laptop.

Pretty much everything we play requires him to get on Boot camp, even minecraft (Altho that one is mostly cuz we are not making 2 modpacks just for him). He loves his Mac and that's that, but this really illustrates how bad gaming on Mac OS really is.

[Hyunckel]

A Mac user complaining about getting gouged.

^ this

/10char

[Onikimaru]

A Mac user complaining about getting gauged.

That's about the sum of it XD

[Dante_V]

Bye Felicia!

[Etiken]

Look, I'm sorry you are having this issue. I really am. BUT, WoW is no longer the benchmark for MMOs. WoW use to be the benchmark for MMOs until FFXIV. Sometime prior to Heavensward FFXIV had around 2.5 million active and growing. WoW has so many subs mostly due to nostalgia. Most of them are the same players that have played WoW since the glory days that keep coming back hoping their beloved game will return to that glory with expansion and wanting to continue experiencing that game they fell in love with. Basically, it's similar to Stockholme Syndrome in a way where Blizzard basically grabbed people at one point and continues to hold the majority of them hostage, and even though they lost that magic, people still want to support them and love them no matter what they do. WoD was one of the worst expansions in MMO history, but despit

Holy mother jesus wall of text. Not even going to bother. XD

[Etiken]

Holy mother jesus wall of text. Not even going to bother. XD

Couldnt even quote the whole thing, it was that ridiculous

[RiverTams]

I hate having to buy the PS3 and Windows version, it honestly screams despair for money.

[Naylia]

Be glad you didn't buy the Mac version...since it's useless. Just stick with Bootcamp. Even playing via Parallels is better, which is not a real high bar to clear. 0 effort was put into the port...and if they did put effort in, they managed to actually make it worse...not better.