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    AvathAlThor's Avatar
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    Avath Al'thor
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    I'm going to play with my install tonight and see if I can work out anything more about what's going on as I've seen some people saying that they're able to play without issues. I only toyed with it for about 15 mins last night before my girlfriend arrived.

    I've got an early Retina MBP so wasn't expecting great performance, but I was at least expecting competent. I'll let you know if I have any interesting results.
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    The fact that they're so quick to issue refunds and SE's apparent reluctance to openly address this issue tells me that a quick solution is most likely not forthcoming.

    I submitted a request to have my Mac license transferred over to PC so we'll see if I get a similar response.

    Really disappointed. I was super excited about a native Mac client but it seems like the only effort put into a $60 Mac release was a cheap wrapper of the PC client
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    Mito Mito
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    This is a problem with Transgaming, OS X user if you open Content inside that game .app file, you will see all the Windows game files in there.

    Transgaming is just a wrapper client to emulate over DX9.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiniTofu View Post
    This is a problem with Transgaming, OS X user if you open Content inside that game .app file, you will see all the Windows game files in there.

    Transgaming is just a wrapper client to emulate over DX9.
    Quoting myself here, like I said 1-2 months ago when they said Transgaming. I knew these issue would come and I've been telling people this is a wrapper not a native. They all either ignored me or deny my assumptions.

    Here we go here, where we are. c: good luck spending $60 on wrapper for OS X.

    Was speaking from 15+ yrs of pc (win/mac) gaming experiences.
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    So are they giving refunds for this without much trouble? Guessing they haven't commented on it being so bad.
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    Bahamut Ali
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    I made the mistake of not doing my research.. I totally never thought it would be in a wrapper, because honestly I could have figured this out myself. I could have ran it in parraells or bootcamp and would have avoided the purchase. Not sure what I am going to do yet. I get around 25 FPS, which is playable but only for dorking around. I have my PC version for raiding. I thought the Mac version would be cool to run on my laptop from bed for crafting/gathering. I totally cannot believe they didn't do a native port. I figured they would have their sh*t together like Blizzard. I will give it a week or two to see if they respond.
    Really not worth full price though.
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    Last edited by zerovisual79; 06-25-2015 at 12:44 AM.

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    Delmania Shadowstar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiniTofu View Post
    Quoting myself here, like I said 1-2 months ago when they said Transgaming. I knew these issue would come and I've been telling people this is a wrapper not a native. They all either ignored me or deny my assumptions.

    Here we go here, where we are. c: good luck spending $60 on wrapper for OS X.

    Was speaking from 15+ yrs of pc (win/mac) gaming experiences.
    Transgaming also did the wrapper for the Guild Wars 2 client for OSX, and it works flawlessly on my machine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delily View Post
    Transgaming also did the wrapper for the Guild Wars 2 client for OSX, and it works flawlessly on my machine.
    Same here. Wine wrappers needn't be terrible, but an FPS loss of around 20% is what you should expect, not around 90%. This is just a shoddy job. We'll probably never know how it came to be that way:
    • maybe there's something unusual about the way FFXIV is coded (to make it run well on PS3/4) that doesn't map well to Cider;
    • maybe Transgaming only received the code they needed late in the day and had to do a rush job;
    • maybe they were all too busy preparing for the Nvidia sale to spend much time on FFXIV;
    • maybe Transgaming's senior management simply didn't care any more once that part of the business had been sold.

    Fundamentally, though, it doesn't matter how it came to be. SE are the ones who sold the product and they are the ones who need to take responsibility for the state it's in. If I were them, I'd have accepted the embarrassment of a delayed Mac release rather than release something sub-standard that will cause long-term harm to their reputation.

    Remaining silent on it won't help, either. Hold your hands up, admit you got it wrong and offer people a refund. At least that way you've only lost the money for that transaction, rather than losing a customer forever.
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    Last edited by Undrum; 06-25-2015 at 03:45 AM. Reason: typo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Undrum View Post
    Same here. Wine wrappers needn't be terrible, but an FPS loss of around 20% is what you should expect, not around 90%. This is just a shoddy job. We'll probably never know how it came to be that way:
    • maybe there's something unusual about the way FFXIV is coded (to make it run well on PS3/4) that doesn't map well to Cider;
    • maybe Transgaming only received the code they needed late in the day and had to do a rush job;
    • maybe they were all too busy preparing for the Nvidia sale to spend much time on FFXIV;
    • maybe Transgaming's senior management simply didn't care any more once that part of the business had been sold.

    Fundamentally, though, it doesn't matter how it came to be. SE are the ones who sold the product and they are the ones who need to take responsibility for the state it's in. If I were them, I'd have accepted the embarrassment of a delayed Mac release rather than release something sub-standard that will cause long-term harm to their reputation.

    Remaining silent on it won't help, either. Hold your hands up, admit you got it wrong and offer people a refund. At least that way you've only lost the money for that transaction, rather than losing a customer forever.
    personally i think they started the port on the 23rd and finished it on the 23rd. explains why a) we never knew a damn thing till after the servers went live and b) why it is unbelievably broken
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    Mito Mito
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    I would suggest a refund or transfer license to PC version. Play it in Bootcamp with proper Nvidia / AMD driver support the game at least instead of running Transgaming wrapper with some OpenGL emulations which trottle the game performance down to its knee with so much render overhead.

    Windows 10 bootcamp will be very nice in July if you guys can get your hands on a copy Win10. DX12 will help reduce the CPU load.
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