Again not enough quests

[Xerodan]

It seems SE didn't learn anything from the quest drought at from 47-50, as there are again and again not enough quests to finish a level. I'm now sitting at 58 with 1.5 million XP left until 59 but without a single quest left in the hinterlands. It was the same at the previous levels, albeit not as grave as at 58.

[Zephyr-Umbra]

I don't think its a case of not learning anything rather than design by intent, they want you to run dungeons and fates in multiple areas, doing your dailies and roulettes. I think it would be a bit lacklustre if you could just quest straight to 60, only doing the odd dungeon required for progression. They want people to group up and fate party or spam dungeons for gear sets etc, might not be everyones cup of tea but it is an MMO so you have to expect some grinding and cooperation.

[Xerodan]

The dungeons also offer no incentive to do them since the equipment you get there is useless because you get better quest gear a little bit later. 139 dungeon gear is worse than 142 quest gear, for example.

[Xerodan]

No, I certainly do not expect grinding to level up. This is MMO design which may have worked ten years ago and still does in Asia, but nowadays it's just bad game design.
Fates are also repetitive and give little xp. The sidequests themselves are godawful. They send you around ten times in circles, it's especially bad in the hinterlands since you have a loading screen between the town and the general zone. You run into town to get a quest, then you have to talk to someone outside of town, then you have to go back, then again outside to the exact same place and back to town again. And it's not just a few quests like that, this expansion is full of them.
Also the zone design is lackluster. There's so little detail, the hinterlands for example are just plain ugly. But everyone has different tastes I guess.
But still, I don't want to play anymore since I now see that they're doing the same mistakes as in ARR (they managed to fix the quest drought there, why didn't they do this in HW?)

[Chihaya]

No, I certainly do not expect grinding to level up. This is MMO design which may have worked ten years ago and still does in Asia, but nowadays it's just bad game design.

Then you might want to stay away from just about all the asian MMOs, this being one of them, and the least grindy one already.

So many people hitting level cap during just early access, it is insanely easy to level in this game.

Then looking at your character, brd with no invigorate or blood for blood, you just want everything handed to you and get carried ya?

[StouterTaru]

It's a new week, challenge log is bare. 10 FATEs in 4 zones, 5 dungeons, 3 roulettes, 5 commendations. Do all those and you will get more than half a level of bonus exp.

[MistyMew]

It's a new week, challenge log is bare. 10 FATEs in 4 zones, 5 dungeons, 3 roulettes, 5 commendations. Do all those and you will get more than half a level of bonus exp.

excellent suggestions and ty

I tend to agree though that there should indeed be enough quests available to max out ones first job through the msq. We have 10 or so other jobs that will be nothing but a mindless grind of one kind or another..that to me is plenty punishing enough. At the very least ones main should lv through available quests.

You are not "supposed" to grind a dungeon for a lv..or to get that better gear someone else mentioned, theres no written rule anywhere. you could grind it 300x and still not win 1 piece of gear...so that logic is flawed.

At any rate I will indeed fate grind for the next 1/2 lv or do a few challanges mixed in..not by choice though (which is a bad idea se)

[AmaiHanakaze]

"Oh no, I have to actually do other game content to get my level... oh woe is me!"

Be happy you don't have to sit in the same spot pulling the same mobs for 3 hours to get one level...FOR EVERY LEVEL.

[LunaHoshino]

"Oh no, I have to actually do other game content to get my level... oh woe is me!"

Be happy you don't have to sit in the same spot pulling the same mobs for 3 hours to get one level...FOR EVERY LEVEL.

Ragnarok Online, man. That game is the reason I laugh at anyone who complains that FFXIV is too grindy. The amount of grinding this game requires is trivial at best.

[SakurazukaSeishirou]

Ragnarok Online, man. That game is the reason I laugh at anyone who complains that FFXIV is too grindy. The amount of grinding this game requires is trivial at best.

5+ years of RO and I still miss the grind! It's so laughable when people complain about slow exp!!
It's nonexistent here. What's the point of instant max lvl anyway??