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    Player
    Recife's Avatar
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    Artemi Aphyff
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    The problem, however, is that similar hardware builds have been showing largely different performances. One just needs to take the time to search the various threads available here and in the reddit subforum. While the "good performance" reports seen to be lower in number, it could be just that those people are not bothering as much in looking for "troubleshooting" threads.

    By good performance i mean the range of 30-60 fps, which leaves you with a comfortable performance to play. On the other hand, what the people with "bad performance" are experiencing (my wife included) is a -stable- 10-20 FPS performance. I mean that the performance won't chance regardless of the settings! From what we've experienced, with the graphic setting on either extremely low or extremely high, the performance will just stay around 20 fps. Apparently, it also doesn't matter if there are too many or only a couple of characters and models being displayed.
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    Furthermore, we've been trying to play the game on a 2013 15" MacBook Pro Retina (top of the line, if i recall correctly). There are reports of people that have been successfuly (45+ FPS) playing the game on a 2011 MBP (no settings specified). It is expected that the newer configuration would have a superior performance.

    From all of this, the most simple conclusion that can be taken is that this poor performance is not related to a "Windows vs Mac" problem, the minimum requirements, and much less to an optimization of the settings. It is probably a bug?

    I'm glad that SE acknowledges that there is a problem, but it is infuriating to see comments that tend to push the blame to the user (such as "not fulfilling the minimum requirements") when we can CLEARLY see that it's not the case. I guess the above post is more directed at the claims of "bad emulator" and such, but the ACTUAL problem should be discussed more openly, as has been Yoshida's policy since he came around.
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    A'cier Bleu
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    The response is certainly appreciated, and I'm glad to see they are going to continue working on it. I've gotten it livable at 1600x900 with low settings on a 2015 MacBook w/ Radeon 370, in all areas except the most busy cities. I guess I'll live with that and hope for the best via updates.
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    Judah Elmdore
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    Wow, finally an official answer, thats really apreciated, in fact, yesterday as i have reading here, there was a client update, im not so sure, but was there an improvement? i dont know if there was or i just got used to it but i think it worked better than the day before, hope they continue looking for way to improve the Mac "version".
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    Why even make a Mac version if it was going to be so inferior.....?
    A bad or poorly designed product only angers the consumer, and then that consumer tells all of their friends not to buy it >.>
    I think we've been down that road with 1.X have we not....
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    Last edited by Vespar; 06-26-2015 at 09:45 PM.

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    It needs to be... a client reborn.
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    Mara Eve
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    I'm glad to see an official response. As for me, I have gotten a refund for the Mac version and I will continue to play in Bootcamp. I will look forward to seeing what happens with the new Metal APIs, a high performance Mac client is a dream and I will happily plunk down $$ to buy it.
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    Player Kerwin's Avatar
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    For the Windows version of the game, DirectX is used as the graphics API, while OpenGL is used for the Mac version. Though Windows has OpenGL as well, when it comes to the drawing systems for games such as FFXIV, the performance of OpenGL is inferior to that of DirectX.
    Yes! Lay the smack down on those hipster nerds who claim Mac is better. LOL Have fun with your overpriced INFERIOR computer. xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerwin View Post
    Yes! Lay the smack down on those hipster nerds who claim Mac is better. LOL Have fun with your overpriced INFERIOR computer. xD
    I'm relatively certain that the only ones making the claim that X is better are the PC users. It's like an Android vs. iOS argument, the Android users seem to be the most vocal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delily View Post
    I'm relatively certain that the only ones making the claim that X is better are the PC users. It's like an Android vs. iOS argument, the Android users seem to be the most vocal.
    Focusing on the game and not diverting to a completely different comparison, mac users have to simulate (bootcamp) windows in order to run certin programs better. That's laughable in my opinion and inferior as said above.
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