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    Quote Originally Posted by Hideyuki_Kasuga View Post

    One thing I would like to add with is that Apple has announced their next Mac OS, El Capitan, will have features that may largely improve the performance for running various games. We’ll be talking to Apple about this and continue to make performance improvements so that the gaming experience on Macs are even better.
    OpenGL 4.1, is not inferior to Direct3D9. It's pretty much on par with Direct3D11. My 2013 Macbook Pro is more than capable of handling a DX9 game. While I have nothing to say about thread scheduling, the Transgaming Cider middleware you're using is definitely something you could factor out if you did a native port. I know a native port is out of the question, OS X users aren't worth the effort, this would just be a quick easy way to bring FFXIV to Mac users, but really, I would have to preferred to wait A LOT longer for something that was done right than quick and easy. I know I'm beating against a wall with this, but please, consider a native client.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brianmj View Post
    OpenGL 4.1, is not inferior to Direct3D9. It's pretty much on par with Direct3D11. My 2013 Macbook Pro is more than capable of handling a DX9 game. While I have nothing to say about thread scheduling, the Transgaming Cider middleware you're using is definitely something you could factor out if you did a native port. I know a native port is out of the question, OS X users aren't worth the effort, this would just be a quick easy way to bring FFXIV to Mac users, but really, I would have to preferred to wait A LOT longer for something that was done right than quick and easy. I know I'm beating against a wall with this, but please, consider a native client.
    Pretty much this.

    And if there can't be a client, paying for a wrapper is super ridiculous. A PC license should also be good for Mac, plain and simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brianmj View Post
    OpenGL 4.1, is not inferior to Direct3D9. It's pretty much on par with Direct3D11. My 2013 Macbook Pro is more than capable of handling a DX9 game. While I have nothing to say about thread scheduling, the Transgaming Cider middleware you're using is definitely something you could factor out if you did a native port. I know a native port is out of the question, OS X users aren't worth the effort, this would just be a quick easy way to bring FFXIV to Mac users, but really, I would have to preferred to wait A LOT longer for something that was done right than quick and easy. I know I'm beating against a wall with this, but please, consider a native client.
    This is why I just use wine and get better performance....
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    I likely won't see your replies to my posts so if it's important, /tell Lem Ayase@Kujata .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemage View Post
    This is why I just use wine and get better performance....
    I've struggled to get FFXIV running under Wine on a Mac (although I understand that it tuns OK under Linux). How did you manage it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brianmj View Post
    ... I did say OS X users weren't worth the effort. Those are my feelings. ...
    Of course we're worth the effort, otherwise Square would not have made the investment. It's a business. Blizzard proved that OS X is a profitable platform to market towards, and Square has some Metal experience given their offerings on the App Store.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brianmj View Post
    Blizzard took the time and energy to code a native Mac client. square didn't.
    WoW can run on a piece of shite computer so a Mac client is no big deal for WoW.
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    I got my refund this morning! See you all in boot camp!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemna View Post
    I got my refund this morning! See you all in boot camp!

    What was your procedure to request refund? I've had open tickets for a few days now asking for the same. Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Everest View Post
    What was your procedure to request refund? I've had open tickets for a few days now asking for the same. Thanks
    Mine were also open for a few days. I sent one in through the FFXIV general support system and another through the Square-Enix store. I'm not sure which one actually accomplished the desired outcome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiramu View Post
    WoW can run on a piece of shite computer so a Mac client is no big deal for WoW.
    WoW has a D3D renderer and an OpenGL renderer. Those things take time to write. It's a big deal for Blizzard.
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