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    Alael Sasaki
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delily View Post
    I'm sorry, what? My late 2013 iMac has a NVIDIAGeForceGTX780M 4GB GDDR5 for a graphics card, and Apple is about to switch to Metal on OSX. The issue has nothing to do with Apple, it has to do with using Transgaming to build the client as opposed to building a native client.
    Well the reality that the fault is of multiple company, from SE because they dint wrote a native client, from apple because they could have pushed their graphics API development enough (even tough OpenGL is opensource and not apple owned), From transgaming for the poor optimisation done with the client.
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    Delmania Shadowstar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alael View Post
    Well the reality that the fault is of multiple company, from SE because they dint wrote a native client, from apple because they could have pushed their graphics API development enough (even tough OpenGL is opensource and not apple owned), From transgaming for the poor optimisation done with the client.
    I'm foolishly optimistic that SE will develop a native client using Metal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delily View Post
    I'm foolishly optimistic that SE will develop a native client using Metal.
    The problem is that the Luminous Engine is mostly dedicate to the directX system e.g DX9,11,12 , If they had used some modular method it would be possible with many effort inplement a different graphics API, Howerver this isent the case for FFXIV i dont know what SE is using on the ps4 probably OpenGL and directx9 on the X1
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    Last edited by Alael; 06-25-2015 at 10:23 AM.

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    How bad are we talking here?

    I knew the client was a wrapped but they paid another company to make it. You would think it would at least be playable...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramyth View Post
    How bad are we talking here?

    I knew the client was a wrapped but they paid another company to make it. You would think it would at least be playable...
    Like, really bad.
    As I said before, on Windows (Bootcamped) it runs with around 60 FPS (unless there's a huge cluster of players around, e.g. Hunts)
    In the exact same position, just 30 seconds later (tested across multiple zones) the frame rate has more than halfed (below 30, usually around 22-25)

    It's stuttering and lagging like mad. This is a very, very poor conversion. Not blaming Square here, but rather transgaming or whoever made the wrapper.
    This is like running it on Parallels. It's not playable on OS X. Even if you are way above minimum specs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tatsuo View Post
    Like, really bad.
    As I said before, on Windows (Bootcamped) it runs with around 60 FPS (unless there's a huge cluster of players around, e.g. Hunts)
    In the exact same position, just 30 seconds later (tested across multiple zones) the frame rate has more than halfed (below 30, usually around 22-25)

    It's stuttering and lagging like mad. This is a very, very poor conversion. Not blaming Square here, but rather transgaming or whoever made the wrapper.
    This is like running it on Parallels. It's not playable on OS X. Even if you are way above minimum specs.
    I have the same issue too. I'm running a 5k iMac. So, I certainly have the power to run this game too. Guess I'll just have to bootcamp it still. SE, if you are planning to pull in new people with this, fix it quick before bad word-of-mouth spreads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramyth View Post
    How bad are we talking here?

    I knew the client was a wrapped but they paid another company to make it. You would think it would at least be playable...
    Completely unplayable on mid-2015 Macbook Pro Retina with M370X
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    Amai Hanakaze
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    Thanks for posting this all of you. I've been bootcamping from a late 2013 Retina MacBook Pro and thanks to your input, will continue to do so until I hear that it's actually playable on OS X ><
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    I was afraid of this, using a wrapper is a terrible thing to do, they never work right.
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    I feel like they should have had a beta test for Mac users...
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    お楽しみにしてください。

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