Increase the Experience for Fates/Dungeons/Add XP to 50 Dungeons.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

Unless you absolutely enjoy beating your face for quests you will never be able to do again, if you have multiple classes you like to play this expansion is horrible. It is pretty much gone 2 steps back from what made the patches past 2.0 good.

I propose the following changes to set things right:
- Add 3000-5000 raw experience per kill in level 50 dungeons. (5000 only for the harder ones.)
- Add 5000-6600 raw experience per kill in level 51-55 dungeons.
- Add 6600-8500 raw experience per kill in level 55-60 dungeons.
- Fates +51 should be much more experience. 40-50k raw experience per fate. Same experience as the main story-line. Right now they are completely ignored.

[Musashidon]

that's pretty a ridiculous amount of exp.

with 50% amoury bonus fates would give over 60k exp each.

not only that monsters would give 4.5k in dungeons like AK WP brayflox!? these are the easiest speed run dungeons you pull a lot of monsters and kill 2 bosses (brayflox) in under 8 minutes all players would flock to these to lvl.

course i will say the fate exp isn't exactly worth it even if you did have the 50% bonus but that is because of the high amount of hp everything has in the new area's.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

that pretty a ridiculous amount of exp.

with 50% amoury bonus fates would give over 60k exp each.

not only that monsters would give 4.5k in dungeons like AK WP brayflox!? these are the easiest speed run dungeons you pull a lot of monsters and kill 2 bosses (brayflox) in under 8 minutes all players would flock to these to lvl.

course i will say the fate exp isn't exactly worth it even if you did have the 50% bonus but that is because of the high amount of hp everything has in the new area's.

You forgot that your leveling a second class. Or even a third class.

[Nague]

that's pretty a ridiculous amount of exp.

with 50% amoury bonus fates would give over 60k exp each.

not only that monsters would give 4.5k in dungeons like AK WP brayflox!? these are the easiest speed run dungeons you pull a lot of monsters and kill 2 bosses (brayflox) in under 8 minutes all players would flock to these to lvl.

course i will say the fate exp isn't exactly worth it even if you did have the 50% bonus but that is because of the high amount of hp everything has in the new area's.

people wont accept 100 fates per level or 40 dungeons per level for their alternate jobs, its no fun and pointless.
Very few people will find it acceptable.


The ones complaining now are even the most resilient to grind, imagine someone who took1 month to level with mainquests to 60, it will be half a year until he has another class up there if he wouldnt quit beforehand.

[Krylo]

that's pretty a ridiculous amount of exp.

Not really.

Current Mor Dhona fates, without armory bonus, give ~13k exp. HW fates currently give ~15-18k exp and take 5 times as long (except some special ones, like Tarrasque, which give nearly 50k exp and don't take too long). The only thing ridiculous is that, at current exp rates, it's more efficient (maybe equally if you have kill exp bonuses running to buff the higher per kill exp) to do pre-50 fates than HW fates to level 50-60. If they gave 60k per with armory bonus, as you suggest, they'd still end up taking only slightly more fates to level in HW than it did in ARR.

It's also ridiculous that 49 to 50 is 560k. That's 43 fates to level 49 to 50 without armory bonuses. A lot, but, you know, doable. A single level in HW ranges in the millions requiring over 100 fates to gather the necessary experience. Combine this with the fact that AV's exp total is a couple hundred thousand exp (not in a position to run it right now and check, but I know with armory bonus I've never had to run it twice to level from 47 to 48, and 48-49 was nearly done in a single run as well, while 49-50 might take 3). Meanwhile, up to 55 HW dungeons have capped out at about 200-300k, as far as I can tell.

Basically it takes twice as long to get any levels, and your most efficient method of leveling is likely doing pre 50 fates with pre 50 dungeons being only slightly less efficient than post 50 dungeons, if less efficient at all.

And THAT'S ridiculous. If they want people leveling to 60 in Ishgard they need to tune up the experience at least a little or there's not really any reason to do so.

[Musashidon]

And THAT'S ridiculous. If they want people leveling to 60 in Ishgard they need to tune up the experience at least a little or there's not really any reason to do so.

but to 60k exp minimum? at lvl 50 that is what 13 fates to hit lvl 51? 800k ish exp to lvl

then 52 is only 1 million 53 1.2milion you're saying that to lvl it should take no more than 20 fates?

[Nektulos-Tuor]

but to 60k exp minimum? at lvl 50 that is what 13 fates to hit lvl 51? 800k ish exp to lvl

then 52 is only 1 million 53 1.2milion you're saying that to lvl it should take no more than 20 fates?

The level 51 fates that you get in the starting zones should be 35k. However after you do the quests/main story which gives you access to the higher zones THEN it should jump to 48k. Then at the last zones it should be 60k.

[Kaedan94]

The level 51 fates that you get in the starting zones should be 35k. However after you do the quests/main story which gives you access to the higher zones THEN it should jump to 48k. Then at the last zones it should be 60k.

Stop doing FATEs. Run Dungeons and only use FATEs/Challenge log/Levequests as filler in the time you're waiting for the Dungeon queue (or make a party and skip all that altogether).

The HW dungeons give a ton of XP. And I have a feeling that's what SE is trying to do here is make dungeon-running more attractive than FATEs. They did it once already back in ARR, and they're doing the same with HW.

[Kaedan94]

They're not going to do anything of the sort. They may increase XP after a few months, and at that time they may add XP to 50 dungeons, but I doubt it.

They want you to level 50-60 playing Ishgard content, not rehashing the same ARR content

[Nektulos-Tuor]

They're not going to do anything of the sort. They may increase XP after a few months, and at that time they may add XP to 50 dungeons, but I doubt it.

They want you to level 50-60 playing Ishgard content, not rehashing the same ARR content

This is ridiculous though.