Defensive ability, WAR VS DRK

[Ceodore]

Warriors and Paladins don't need healers to pre-shield them in Odin, no. Their ability set is strong enough as is to handle healers that are just reacting to damage instead of trying to pre-heal/shield for it.

So when you take the already strong ability set of WAR & PLD and then take it in to high level raids with good healers that will coordinate for that sort of thing, then those jobs only get stronger. If the DRK requires good healers to survive on PUG level content like Odin, how are they gonna fare when you move into high level raids where everything hits a lot harder?

It looks a bit like 2.0 WAR vs. PLD. Sure WAR could do all the content that was available if your gear was top of the line and you had really good healers and you worked well together to handle the lack of WAR's innate damage mitigation. Or you could take a PLD and do it much easier. It wasn't balanced and it got fixed.

Well, for one, I never said anything about Balance. I only ever mentioned the capabilities. Of course there is imbalance between the classes. That was, is, and always will be the case, to try to state otherwise would be a fallacy. If SE wants to fix it, then sure, fix it but there will always be imbalance. But as far as I'm concerned, DRK is a great class that makes tanking more challenging and fun. In my case, I don't go to new content on a warrior or a dark knight first. I always go Paladin. Because it's the safe bet. It's the safest choice for simple flat overwhelming mitigation. Then, when I'm comfortable on my Paladin, I take my Warrior, and learn the content in a new way. Then, I'll take my Dark Knight and learn it all over again, for added challenge. There is no "Oh, such and such tank simply CAN'T do such and such content" No, that's not the case. These classes have been hashed out through hours, days, weeks, months of planning and replanning. Their capabilities have been tested ahead of time. They CAN do the content, it's a matter of can you learn how to do it?