Defensive ability, WAR VS DRK

[Dererk]

LOL well so long as wer sharing opinions.

I think DRK is great just need a few adjustments I think.

1 Grit needs to give a incress in parry which is thir main mitigation.

2 Living dead needs to be adjusted in away that won't kill you out right like a stat debuff if your atlest healed a quarter or half way before the effect ends or at lest half their hp healed won't kill them.

There may be a bit more but can't think of them at the moment.

[Tila]

LOL well so long as wer sharing opinions.

I think DRK is great just need a few adjustments I think.

1 Grit needs to give a incress in parry which is thir main mitigation.

2 Living dead needs to be adjusted in away that won't kill you out right like a stat debuff if your atlest healed a quarter or half way before the effect ends or at lest half their hp healed won't kill them.

There may be a bit more but can't think of them at the moment.

I think you're partly right on the parry.

Reprisal needs to have a longer window in which you can use it when it procs, so you can hold on to it for big attacks.

DRK need to have a trait where parry reduces more damage all together. So like 30 or 40% rather than 20%.

[TouchandFeel]

Reprisal needs to have a longer window in which you can use it when it procs, so you can hold on to it for big attacks.

I agree so much on this. The Reprisal/Parry combination is an important part of DRK mitigation but as it is now just feels clunky. The larger usage window for Reprisal is a must imo as well as more visual feedback for when it procs such as a short but noticeable visual+audio fx would go a long way towards making it feel more intuitive.

[RiisWolf]

Without any active mitigation like the Warrior's Inner Beast, I can easily see why Dark Knights would be the least preferred tank to take on an Extreme boss that spams tankbusters. I know I would want a WAR over PLD up there against Odin, the trial before steps of faith, and just about any extreme boss for that matter because once the tankbuster pops when the PLD is out of CDs to use, then he is done, unlike the Warrior who can Inner Beast every time. And I definitely know I'll take a WAR as a MT over DRK in a heartbeat cause the DRK's problems are similar to the PLD's but at a noticeably worse degree.

[Violette]

Without any active mitigation like the Warrior's Inner Beast, I can easily see why Dark Knights would be the least preferred tank to take on an Extreme boss that spams tankbusters. I know I would want a WAR over PLD up there against Odin, the trial before steps of faith, and just about any extreme boss for that matter because once the tankbuster pops when the PLD is out of CDs to use, then he is done, unlike the Warrior who can Inner Beast every time. And I definitely know I'll take a WAR as a MT over DRK in a heartbeat cause the DRK's problems are similar to the PLD's but at a noticeably worse degree.

After watching Ravana extreme, I can see DRK being viable, being able to parry/dodge the multi-physical hit move and dark mind the conal spam (if that is magical), which given the low cooldowns it can do constantly.

[Alise]

wow... so when they promote the Dark Knight job. He totally look like offensive tank, but now.. he not even deal as good dps as warrior?

[Xariann]

Hi all,

I just came back from work and read your many replies. Thank you for your input.

So it feels like that in a raid environment (from what we know) there are reservations on DRKs mainly due to tank busters. I could stick it out with DRK as I like the style, but I already played WAR when it was broken. I remember how it was difficult to find a group for Titan (although I did get my Bravura back then) because nobody wanted you to tank it, and they wanted a DPS in your place. And now it got fixed and I am once again putting myself in a situation where I am playing the underdog. I don't think I want to do that again...

So I'll leave the DRK for now. Shame, I really like the style. I prefer the AOE to that of the WAR as well.

[Kaedan]

Hi all,

So it feels like that in a raid environment (from what we know) there are reservations on DRKs mainly due to tank busters. I could stick it out with DRK as I like the style, but I already played WAR when it was broken. I remember how it was difficult to find a group for Titan (although I did get my Bravura back then) because nobody wanted you to tank it, and they wanted a DPS in your place. And now it got fixed and I am once again putting myself in a situation where I am playing the underdog. I don't think I want to do that again...

So I'll leave the DRK for now. Shame, I really like the style. I prefer the AOE to that of the WAR as well.

It is a shame, since there's no real reason for you to drop it. Most of the people in this thread claiming DRK will suck for end-game content either don't do the math, or do the math badly. They're going off of pure gut feeling.

DRK will be fine for raid content.

[Xariann]

It is a shame, since there's no real reason for you to drop it. Most of the people in this thread claiming DRK will suck for end-game content either don't do the math, or do the math badly. They're going off of pure gut feeling.

DRK will be fine for raid content.

Funny you should mention that, I didn't get many level 60s (and even then we don't really have any significant raid content) come to this thread yet. I have a friend who keeps telling me, "You like it, you wouldn't be posting about it on the forums if you didn't. You know you should play it."

[Tila]

It is a shame, since there's no real reason for you to drop it. Most of the people in this thread claiming DRK will suck for end-game content either don't do the math, or do the math badly. They're going off of pure gut feeling.

DRK will be fine for raid content.

It could also be that they bring nothing to the table and are outshined in e every category by WAR, except magic mitigation, which 1. Isnt as useful as it seems and 2. They arent that much better at it. They just need buffs and tweaking at the moment. Not saying WAR is OP mind you, just DRK is more comparable to WAR than PLD. DRK cant do anything better than PLD but dps and magic mitigate. And they arent that far ahead in DPS.