The Definitive Dark Knight Guide

[Drtoxicmedica]

When you say "Hell, I find I usually have enough mana for DA C&S", you make it sound like you're not doing that normally. Should you, though? I feel like the priorities for mana are DA C&S > Dark Passenger > DA Soul Eater

If you divide mana spent by potency gained, DA C&S and even Dark Passenger vs 1 target comes out ahead of DA Soul Eater. DA Soul Eater is for when C&S and DP are on CD and you have excess mana. I'm open to any DRKs disagreeing and explaining why, but I've never used C&S for mana unless I just messed up my MP by not paying attention or something.

Honestly depends on the fight. Imo if your using DK on C&S but losing out on 2 SE it's not really worth it if mana is on the lower spectrum. And you'll need a little mana for dark mind or DP for adds etc. What I mean by find mp for it simply means I tend to usually have mp for it regardless of situation. Really only matters on certain bosses or fights that aren't straight dummy fights.

[Lawson_Grey]

. Imo if your using DK on C&S but losing out on 2 SE it's not really worth it

That doesn't make sense. They both cost one Dark Arts to boost. Boosting C&S gets you 350 potency gained over the 100 C&S normally gives. DA Souleater only gives 160 of a boosted potency (240 normally, 400 with DA). C&S restores exactly half of a Dark Arts in terms of mana (About 800-850). You would not lose out on 2 souleaters because C&S only ever returns enough mana for HALF of a Dark Arts. Which means DA Souleater comes to 240 potency vs C&S 300 if you add half of a DA SE to a full DA SE. Or you could look at it is using C&S twice to get one more DA SE, which is obviously not worth it.

It's ALWAYS better to use DA C&S instead of DA Souleater. DA C&S > Dark Passenger vs 1 target > DA SE is just how the math works out.

The only time I'd ever use C&S without DA is if I messed up managing my mana and got too low to handle a boss mechanic, such as burning all my MP and not having enough to Dark Arts Dark Mind in AS1. But I just try to not do that and stay one step ahead.

[Giantbane]

That doesn't make sense. They both cost one Dark Arts to boost. Boosting C&S gets you 350 potency gained over the 100 C&S normally gives. DA Souleater only gives 160 of a boosted potency (240 normally, 400 with DA). C&S restores exactly half of a Dark Arts in terms of mana (About 800-850). You would not lose out on 2 souleaters because C&S only ever returns enough mana for HALF of a Dark Arts. Which means DA Souleater comes to 240 potency vs C&S 300 if you add half of a DA SE to a full DA SE. Or you could look at it is using C&S twice to get one more DA SE, which is obviously not worth it.

It's ALWAYS better to use DA C&S instead of DA Souleater. DA C&S > Dark Passenger vs 1 target > DA SE is just how the math works out.

The only time I'd ever use C&S without DA is if I messed up managing my mana and got too low to handle a boss mechanic, such as burning all my MP and not having enough to Dark Arts Dark Mind in AS1. But I just try to not do that and stay one step ahead.

DA+SE isn't even really worth 140 extra potency. If you weren't using DA + SE you'd be using Delerium (dps purposes only) which is 280 pot. So DA + SE is really only adding 120pot.

[Lawson_Grey]

DA+SE isn't even really worth 140 extra potency. If you weren't using DA + SE you'd be using Delerium (dps purposes only) which is 280 pot. So DA + SE is really only adding 120pot.

Good point! You wouldn't ever use regular SE anyway, which puts DA C&S and Dark Passenger even further ahead in terms of MP priority.