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    TouchandFeel's Avatar
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    Vespereaux Vaillantes
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    Exodus
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Docfiord_Fowling View Post
    Yep, that's why I said Shadow wall is ALMOST Sentiel
    Yes, I know that you did, but if I factor in the "almost" you are directly contradicting yourself. I chose to highlight that singular statement as erroneous and not the foundation of your entire statement. You stated that PLD and DRK mitigation are on the same level or in other word equivalent. Even if every other equivalence statement was correct, which they weren't as I pointed out with Hallowed and Living Dead, then you have already pointed out that there is a difference between Shadow Wall and Sentinel. If there is a difference they are not the same. While DRK is not as bad off as some are making it seem, it is the "almost" or "not quite" as good as that people have issue with.
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    Gaius Valerius
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    @ Ipkonfig

    Actually, my character's are higher then that, like you said, Lodestone must be behind, or wrong or something because my characters are higher then that. That has nothing to do with what we were talking about up above... You mentioned tanking while NOT in Grit stance and being just fine which I find hard to believe. Not saying its not possible but to say that healers were dpsing more then healing I think is a little far fetched.

    I think having issues PLAYING the class vs the class having issues itself is a big difference. The class is brand new, its bound to have problems. From my own personal experiences and many other tanks in my FC, we all agree that the DRK is the squishiest of the tanks, and while dealing decent damage for a tank, is still behind the Warrior. Now, I have yet to hit 60, get better gear and get all my abilities so it may change but CURRENTLY at my lvl it has its fair share of issues and survivability is the biggest one I see with it.
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    Evangeline Lunaris
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    Midgardsormr
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rover1983 View Post
    Now, I have yet to hit 60, get better gear and get all my abilities so it may change but CURRENTLY at my lvl it has its fair share of issues and survivability is the biggest one I see with it.
    This is your issue. At 60, DRKs aren't really much different than PLDs. I get complimented all the time by my lack of damage taken.

    Sole Survivor is very good for burst survival, and rotating your CDs properly means you're not taking much.

    I've tanked with all three, and DRK is around the same level as my PLD in terms of mitigation. It loses to Warrior because the self healing in AoE situations is ridiculous, they're still the kings of AoE tanking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HidingYoshis View Post
    This is your issue. At 60, DRKs aren't really much different than PLDs. I get complimented all the time by my lack of damage taken.

    Sole Survivor is very good for burst survival, and rotating your CDs properly means you're not taking much.

    I've tanked with all three, and DRK is around the same level as my PLD in terms of mitigation. It loses to Warrior because the self healing in AoE situations is ridiculous, they're still the kings of AoE tanking.
    interesting, thanks for that tidbit
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