The Definitive Dark Knight Guide

[Ashaeya]

Some of my thoughts copied over from the reddit thread:

I use the following for MTing:

Dark Arts Pre-pull (wait 6) > Unmend > Plunge + Carve and Spit (450) > Hard Slash > Salted Earth + Blood Price > Spinning Slash > Dark Arts + Low Blow > Power Slash > Dark Passanger (optional) > Scourge

If unleash procs from unmend I use it instead of Hard Slash and just move it up 1 GCD, but the oGCDs stay the same.

For AOE pulls I kind of just wing it. If I had to come up with a decent opener though I'd probably go with something like...

Assuming 5 mobs at least:

Unmend > Plunge + Dark Passanger > Unleash > Salted Earth + Blood Price > Unleash > Defensive CD + Dart Arts > Abyssal Drain > Unleash > oGCD + Dark Arts > Abyssal Drain > Kind of repeat till you think your mana can no longer support it.

[Jahaudant]

Some of my thoughts copied over from the reddit thread:

I use the following for MTing:


If unleash procs from unmend I use it instead of Hard Slash and just move it up 1 GCD, but the oGCDs stay the same.

For AOE pulls I kind of just wing it. If I had to come up with a decent opener though I'd probably go with something like...

Assuming 5 mobs at least:

Using Dark Arts on Abyssal Drain is almost certainly a bad idea unless you really need that emergency heal or you have enough incoming damage that you must just burn MP as not to waste it. Dark Arts is far more expensive than Abyssal Drain and only doubles the HP drained.

You can use less MP on two Abyssal Drains, deal more total damage, and absorb the same amount of HP.

[Ashaeya]

Using Dark Arts on Abyssal Drain is almost certainly a bad idea unless you really need that emergency heal or you have enough incoming damage that you must just burn MP as not to waste it. Dark Arts is far more expensive than Abyssal Drain and only doubles the HP drained.

You can use less MP on two Abyssal Drains, deal more total damage, and absorb the same amount of HP.

Dark Arts enables the healing function of the spell. It does no healing otherwise.

Also, it's not about emergency healing, it's just helping the healer in general. returning 1500-2000 health on a combo is worth using at least 2-3 times during the initial pull. I've never had mana issues during the pull or after when using this method and I certainly heal for more and more frequently this way.

[Jahaudant]

Dark Arts enables the healing function of the spell. It does no healing otherwise.

Also, it's not about emergency healing, it's just helping the healer in general. returning 1500-2000 health on a combo is worth using at least 2-3 times during the initial pull. I've never had mana issues during the pull or after when using this method and I certainly heal for more and more frequently this way.

You're right. Quitting DRK.

[Xenosan]

For aoe you should be establishing hate lead with you opener, (looks like you are)

Dart Arts > Abyssal Drain > Unleash > oGCD + Dark Arts > Abyssal Drain >

Sounds like over kill. If DA buffed AD's potency then sure, but tbh.. healers are dropping Cure IIs on you whether you absorb or no.

I like green text flying across my screen as much as anyone, but if those DAs and ADs are going to keep you from using Dark Passenger as it comes off CD it's a dps loss

[Ashaeya]

For aoe you should be establishing hate lead with you opener, (looks like you are)



Sounds like over kill. If DA buffed AD's potency then sure, but tbh.. healers are dropping Cure IIs on you whether you absorb or no.

I like green text flying across my screen as much as anyone, but if those DAs and ADs are going to keep you from using Dark Passenger as it comes off CD it's a dps loss

As DRKs we don't get nifty things like block or increased health and healing potency via Defiance (not to mention parry is unreliable as hell) so even though we are popping CDs, it feels like we are taking a good chunk of damage. I don't feel its overkill to help healers out on any healing intensive pull by using this method. I don't end up having any mana issues so personally there isn't any reason for me not to.

[Xenosan]

Also I've found locking Blood Price into a rotation to be a very bad idea. Had an event where suddenly my established rotation wasn't working at all.

Realized it was because this 1 WHM -- out of dozens -- preferred stun-lock Holy spamming at the same point of the fight where I was preferring to use Blood Price.

BP just need to stay aware and activate at the right times, which is very situational

[cgbspender]

Please add the icons in front of the names. At least for "Living Dead". It's always better for every healer to know they have to react and not just top you at 80/90% ^^ But if they don't recognize the icon while playing, well..

[Beoth]

Please add the icons in front of the names. At least for "Living Dead". It's always better for every healer to know they have to react and not just top you at 80/90% ^^ But if they don't recognize the icon while playing, well..

They don't have to top you in fact but heal you for the amout of your max health.

[Reynhart]

They don't have to top you in fact but heal you for the amout of your max health.

Which is hard to follow precisely in the heat of the battle.

I wonder if it would be useful for DRK to wear more slaying accesories, thus reducing their max HP.
And that the difference in eHP is supposed to be balanced with the constant use of SoulEater and Abyssal Drain.

A new meta, maybe ?