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    I really disagree. I feel that while ARR had a lot of fetch quests and filler, HW has had very little. I've thoroughly been enjoying all the MSQ and always want to know what happens next. You should know by now that a lot of content is locked by MSQ, that's hardly a surprise.

    Flying is more like a reward for exploring. If we could fly evewhere straight away, who would actually appreciate everything on the ground? The whole big journey would be pretty redundant if you could fly everywhere at top speed straight away.

    Well, it's all opinions. But it really just sounds like you want things handed to you with no effort on your part...
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    Quote Originally Posted by seida View Post
    I really disagree.

    ...would be pretty redundant if you could fly everywhere at top speed straight away.

    Well, it's all opinions. But it really just sounds like you want things handed to you with no effort on your part...
    I am sorry, but making us into robots is hardly called "effort". I do not mind earning anything, in fact, I loved the grinding in Final Fantasy 11. However, making me become a robot and going between point A and point B just to unlock content is not effort. It actually undermines my intelligence and yours. Does it take effort to go between point A and point B? It takes time, not effort. It definitely does not require strategy. It's definitely not fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenku View Post
    However, making me become a robot and going between point A and point B just to unlock content is not effort. It actually undermines my intelligence and yours. Does it take effort to go between point A and point B? It takes time, not effort. It definitely does not require strategy. It's definitely not fun.
    AKA you don't like the story. I find the story fun and interesting. I didn't say it took strategy or skill, that's not the point of it.

    I enjoy the characters and seeing what happens with them... there have been occasional useless quests but on the whole the MSQ has been excellent imo.

    Subquests though, yeah they're all fetchquests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seida View Post
    AKA you don't like the story. I find the story fun and interesting. I didn't say it took strategy or skill, that's not the point of it.

    I enjoy the characters and seeing what happens with them... there have been occasional useless quests but on the whole the MSQ has been excellent imo.

    Subquests though, yeah they're all fetchquests.
    First 2 hours of main scenerio quest is running errands for your new host. It has no character development at all. Again, first impressions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenku View Post
    First 2 hours of main scenerio quest is running errands for your new host. It has no character development at all. Again, first impressions.
    I think it's incredibly shallow go ONLY go by first impressions. RPGs, especially take time and doing quests exists throughout the genre. If your friends are going to be so critical over the game, then they're better off staying out of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenku View Post
    I am sorry, but making us into robots is hardly called "effort". I loved the grinding in Final Fantasy 11. However, making me become a robot and going between point A and point B just to unlock content is not effort. It actually undermines my intelligence and yours. It definitely does not require strategy. It's definitely not fun.
    Erhm...But killing the same mobs over and over again requires strategy, doesn't turn you into a robot, takes effort and not only time, and doesn't undermine my intelligence? Some people hate 'quest grind'. I personally will never play any game anymore where I need to level by killing the same mobs over and over. Been there, done that, and I never felt more like a bot than doing that. I'ld rather have quests.

    It's preference. Maybe this isn't the game for you and you should look out for a Korean grinder. And I don't mean this in a nasty way. I have friends who are happy to do the same thing over and over again for hours.
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