Bard - they broke my job

[Furyan]

Even having DoTs up on 4 targets doesn't give you the constant reset, it all depends on luck for your DoTs to proc. I can get around 20 Bloodletter resets, sometimes I only get very few. Yes, putting it up on multiple targets is heightening your chances, but it is not a guarantee. It all comes down to luck with your DoTs. I do not want one of my AoEs linked with Bloodletter. Why is Rain of Death now, necessary to be linked with my Bloodletter? It doesn't make sense. And it also doesn't make sense with Barrage, and taking away our AoE combo.

The RNG of DoT's isn't any less of an RNG as it was before though. Also, I don't know why your so peeved at bloodletter being linked with RoD, why would you want to use bloodletter in a AoE situation anyway? Pre 3.0 you never put DoTs on mobs in an AoE situation, so you never used bloodletter anyway (well you did but every 15seconds) so it makes absolutely zero difference.

EDIT: Pre 3.0 Wide Volley was a 15% chance to proc RoD. This means on average every 6 Wide Volley you get a RoD for free... on average. 6 x 2.5 Seconds is 15 seconds. Which is the cooldown on Bloodletter/RoD. So if your DoTs reset RoD just once within 6 Quick Knocks (Because you should be using quick knock now) you gain dps.

[Viar]

Makes more sense than Haymaker.

[Rose-Wild]

Please ignore that guy like i can't believe someone complains about the rain of death change when it's probably the only decent change we got in the expansion. And quick knock has been better for ages. The proc was so weird it wasn't worth it and the rain of death one happens way more often. They just need to change wide volley to do more damage because of costing more tp or give it the proc for quick knock.

[yamochan]

oh boy do i really after years of mmo history have to explain how class balancing works?
you cant just throw some rnd dmg numbers at the class until the playerbase says stop. first they need to fix the bard as a whole and that is basicly what they said when posting that the will adress the mobility issue and WM.
after the fixed that and it works then we get more dmg on our skills so that once again we will be only a little bit behind the rest and our songs are again considered a buff and not a reason to justify a bard in the grp.

so and now just a quick shoutout to the ppl who actually like the bowmage: plz visit the nearest blackmage guild master of your choice because he will teach you how to mage around so u can stand and cast all the skills you (n)ever wished to have. while you do that i will run around the boss like a mad man cause im a frigging bard and that means im a mobility class.

[Zyrusticae]

The RNG of DoT's isn't any less of an RNG as it was before though. Also, I don't know why your so peeved at bloodletter being linked with RoD, why would you want to use bloodletter in a AoE situation anyway? Pre 3.0 you never put DoTs on mobs in an AoE situation, so you never used bloodletter anyway (well you did but every 15seconds) so it makes absolutely zero difference.

EDIT: Pre 3.0 Wide Volley was a 15% chance to proc RoD. This means on average every 6 Wide Volley you get a RoD for free... on average. 6 x 2.5 Seconds is 15 seconds. Which is the cooldown on Bloodletter/RoD. So if your DoTs reset RoD just once within 6 Quick Knocks (Because you should be using quick knock now) you gain dps.

Yup, this is about right. The argument for using Bloodletter in an AoE situation makes absolutely no sense. Of COURSE you're going to want to prioritize RoD over Bloodletter when you're hitting 3 or more targets. Why wouldn't you? It's waaaay more potency in a single attack.

It's so effective, in fact, that I've regularly been seeing BRDs out-dps my MCH in AoE situations despite everything MCH has going for it (AoE turret with 0 TP or MP cost, reload adding additional potency to AoE attacks, Rapid Fire allowing for MASSIVE Flare-style AoE burst). This is absolutely not something worth complaining about. If anything, you should be glad it exists. Free AoE procs! Huge damage potential for 0 TP cost!

The only questionable thing is why Wide Volley still exists when Quick Nock is better. I don't think they thought that one through properly.

[yamochan]

The only questionable thing is why Wide Volley still exists when Quick Nock is better. I don't think they thought that one through properly.

what would work is if they bind those 2 skills together with a prog chance then both would have a good value

[Snowaeth]

Yup, this is about right. The argument for using Bloodletter in an AoE situation makes absolutely no sense. Of COURSE you're going to want to prioritize RoD over Bloodletter when you're hitting 3 or more targets. Why wouldn't you? It's waaaay more potency in a single attack.

It's so effective, in fact, that I've regularly been seeing BRDs out-dps my MCH in AoE situations despite everything MCH has going for it (AoE turret with 0 TP or MP cost, reload adding additional potency to AoE attacks, Rapid Fire allowing for MASSIVE Flare-style AoE burst). This is absolutely not something worth complaining about. If anything, you should be glad it exists. Free AoE procs! Huge damage potential for 0 TP cost!

The only questionable thing is why Wide Volley still exists when Quick Nock is better. I don't think they thought that one through properly.

Actually you want to RoD with 2 targets already that's 200 potency vs 150 of BL

[Viar]

Actually you want to RoD with 2 targets already that's 200 potency vs 150 of BL

This. There's literally no meaning in using 2.x rotation on 2+ targets anymore.

[Tua]

The only questionable thing is why Wide Volley still exists when Quick Nock is better. I don't think they thought that one through properly.

It's only useful when running into range for using QN (assuming you already put up the SS and dots whilst the tank was gathering up mobs), but yeah, some additional effect for it would be nice. It's so lonely now.

I just love the new free RoDs, even if I hate pretty much everything 3.0 did to bards. That was a change that made the class feel fresh and more fluid and fun to play, but all that rubbish we gained after level 50... {No thanks}

[yamochan]

all that rubbish we gained after level 50... {No thanks}

well sidewinder is at least one good thing we got but it alone cant compensate the rest.