Bard - they broke my job

[Snowaeth]

Fair enough. Either way --- The gap between BRD (MCH) and the other DPS increased!!!!!!! While the utility ie mobility DECREASED... thats just bad design.

Our FC MCH is pushing 980 on a 4min parse.

I think MCH actually works better than BRD and just takes some more time to learn. (Not saying they'r in a good spot, just probably better off than BRD since they don't have BL proc's etc which would conflict with their GB)

But yea I'm gonna go back being salty in game.

[Panasync]

But he isn't very good if he botchered up his no WM rotation so much.

Here's mine in the same thread with no WM on at all.
http://i18.servimg.com/u/f18/14/22/88/02/brd_pa11.jpg

As you can see compared to his WM the WM would actually do LESS dmg.

I can't compare my WM to my no WM as I feel I might get an STD just from turning the song on.

Is there a reason people keep buffing their DEX with either another party member or a Chocobo? Previously in all of 2.0-2.5 all information was without food buffs or party members unless specifically stated w/dragoon, now people are inflating numbers with party members I don't get it.

Are all the other jobs parsing 1.2-1k using a party member too? If so why?

[Snowaeth]

Is there a reason people keep buffing their DEX with either another party member or a Chocobo? Previously in all of 2.0-2.5 all information was without food buffs or party members unless specifically stated w/dragoon, now people are inflating numbers with party members I don't get it.

Are all the other jobs parsing 1.2-1k using a party member too? If so why?

In my case it was to compare to the other guys parse since he had a war in party.

[SonTensei]

yeah , lets hope SE make adjustments and fixes faster , maybe on alex patch or 3.1 ....

that is very optimistic thinking, but i cant be as optimistic because dev team has a history of taking a long time to do changes to jobs,.

[Panasync]

In my case it was to compare to the other guys parse since he had a war in party.

While I understand that, it makes zero sense to me other than from an epeen standpoint to arbitrarily buff stats in parses that are supposed to be for job dps limits. If people can't just do it standalone people are going to be confused and throwing out numbers that don't equal or mean anything because people will see someone post a number, not realize it's with a WAR/Choco and argue with another player that is parsing 50dps less w/o any party help saying well you're just not playing it right I saw someone who get x amount of dps not realizing the buff(s).

Is the standard not just doing it alone? Did I miss whenever people decided hey let's throw a choco in there so my numbers look closer to a raid parse w/o the actual raid mechanics?

[yamochan]

well im rly at a loss here and i dont know what to do now im thinking about rerolling to some other class thx to the bard changes but then again a movement strong range class does not exist anymore, cause mecha is the same shit only with 2 more instants. i dont get who had the clever idea to ruin the job with this casting stuff. why ffs would i want my bard to have cast times. if i wanted a blackmage i would play a damn blackmage. guess ill eat the less dps an keep playing the bard as it was, screw se and their shitty design choices!

so sry guys now that thats out of my system i kinda almost feel better. back to fishing it is.

[FaerieAura]

I'm having a hard time making it to 60 to finish the story. All of my FC members are talking about their cool new job abilities and I'm sitting here with my broken ass class than I poured months into learning to do well. I tried doing other jobs and it just made me more angry. Really thinking about taking a break while they sort this out...

[Ooshima]

While I understand that, it makes zero sense to me other than from an epeen standpoint to arbitrarily buff stats in parses that are supposed to be for job dps limits. If people can't just do it standalone people are going to be confused and throwing out numbers that don't equal or mean anything because people will see someone post a number, not realize it's with a WAR/Choco and argue with another player that is parsing 50dps less w/o any party help saying well you're just not playing it right I saw someone who get x amount of dps not realizing the buff(s).

Is the standard not just doing it alone? Did I miss whenever people decided hey let's throw a choco in there so my numbers look closer to a raid parse w/o the actual raid mechanics?

Solo, no party/pot/food buff is pretty much the standard.

But him (tony_smash) screwing up his old bard style parse is the truth. IL179 doing 754 he really needs to git gud. A 3:30 parse at IL179 I'm pulling 830+ based on the standard no party/pot/food buff standards.

[Snowaeth]

While I understand that, it makes zero sense to me other than from an epeen standpoint to arbitrarily buff stats in parses that are supposed to be for job dps limits. If people can't just do it standalone people are going to be confused and throwing out numbers that don't equal or mean anything because people will see someone post a number, not realize it's with a WAR/Choco and argue with another player that is parsing 50dps less w/o any party help saying well you're just not playing it right I saw someone who get x amount of dps not realizing the buff(s).

Is the standard not just doing it alone? Did I miss whenever people decided hey let's throw a choco in there so my numbers look closer to a raid parse w/o the actual raid mechanics?

I honestly don't know, I parse without most of the time to have a base line for myself too and that way I don't have to find anyone or do it outside the housing ward most of the time, unless it's laggy.
I mean I can do no choco parses too, this one I did quickly without choco earlier since apparently the war wasn't in his party. But his 760 or so on 3:30 is still low for an old rotation.

I messed up at the start and it still is 868 over 4:25 which is almost a min longer. We are screwed, but if you'r not doing the old rotation right in the first place it's gonna show WM as dps gain while it most likely isn't.
http://i18.servimg.com/u/f18/14/22/88/02/brd_pa12.jpg
Without messing up I suspect to be able to sustain around that 900 on dummy with the old rotation for this amount of time without a party that is.
I'm not showing my top parses here, just some numbers, to point out that if WM is not going to buff our damage significantly above 900 it is a garbage stance and even if it will it still has a horrible gameplay with all the bad ogcd timings so just a potency increase is not a fix, just a band-aid.

[SuzakuCMX]

Our FC MCH is pushing 980 on a 4min parse.

I think MCH actually works better than BRD and just takes some more time to learn. (Not saying they'r in a good spot, just probably better off than BRD since they don't have BL proc's etc which would conflict with their GB)

But yea I'm gonna go back being salty in game.

I need someone to teach me how to MCH :X