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    sirDarts's Avatar
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    Elyza Arcanas
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    I imagine something like this had to go down at SE:
    Manager: "Hey we need people to keep playing TT for some reason."
    Dev1: "Lets make card droprates atrocious!"
    Dev2: "Lets put Random on every other NPC, and give them only 7 cards perfectly fit for their other rules!"
    Dev3: "How about we actually implement a challenging AI, and let the players use all cards they have?"
    *Dev3 gets thrown out of the window*
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    You know what is funny? Go load up FFVIII and play some triple triad in it. TOTALLY different game. You have the option of stacking powerful cards in you hand, which can make lots of fights a breeze, so the various rules are intended to make sure that even your elite deck can still be turned on its head.

    "Oh, but if you can use cheesy methods to get all of the cards, isn't it over too soon?" Well, even if you cheese your way around the world and gather every card, the cards can be converted into items. Transform a card into a junk item, then refine the junk item into Magic spell stock. Plenty of reason to continue playing, farming certain cards, and enjoying the mini game.

    Think on this. FFVIII lacked all of the restrictions we see in FFXIV, yet for some reason it was popular enough in that incarnation to be included into a game 16 years later. Letting players choose whatever cards they want, fight NPCs at whatever Erozean time they want, and be able to alter regions rules as they want, would not make the game any less popular, because if it did, we wouldn't be talking about Triple Triad in 2015.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunspec View Post
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    Sounds about right. We should be able to use any cards we want just as in the FF8 incarnation. I've heard some nonsense about "oh it will make the NPC's too easy." I disagree, if you get a Random or Ascension/Descension or just a Chaos or Order, you can put in to a very bad position. If anything, letting us use the cards we want will make us even with the NPC's rather than make them too easy. Looking at you lady in the weaver's guild.
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    Shuu Naranol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunspec View Post
    You know what is funny? Go load up FFVIII and play some triple triad in it. TOTALLY different game. You have the option of stacking powerful cards in you hand, which can make lots of fights a breeze, so the various rules are intended to make sure that even your elite deck can still be turned on its head.

    "Oh, but if you can use cheesy methods to get all of the cards, isn't it over too soon?" Well, even if you cheese your way around the world and gather every card, the cards can be converted into items. Transform a card into a junk item, then refine the junk item into Magic spell stock. Plenty of reason to continue playing, farming certain cards, and enjoying the mini game.

    Think on this. FFVIII lacked all of the restrictions we see in FFXIV, yet for some reason it was popular enough in that incarnation to be included into a game 16 years later. Letting players choose whatever cards they want, fight NPCs at whatever Erozean time they want, and be able to alter regions rules as they want, would not make the game any less popular, because if it did, we wouldn't be talking about Triple Triad in 2015.
    Wish I could spam likes on this, because YES. So much this.

    I remember I was overjoyed when they finally told us that yes, TT is gonna make its way into FFXIV. I loved the f××× out of TT in FFVIII, there were times I literally didn't do anything else in there but played TT for hours - and that's without even mentioning the card transforms. I just loved it, it was that much fun (to me, anyway).

    And then... here? Like I said, I don't even bother with it. Beat a few easy NPCs back then, to see what it's like, just to have them beaten... and that's it; ever since I wish I hadn't seen what it's like. That insane RNG they added to it (that they added to the whole of GS) just transformed it into a zombie-mode grindfest - when it was supposed to be fun (again, the whole of GS, and this is why I'm not excited for LoV either, because I kinda expect the same thing there too, but let me be wrong).
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    Last edited by BreathlessTao; 10-30-2015 at 04:41 PM. Reason: Forums = twitter, again. Why are these forums nothing but twitter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chek View Post
    Why is Triple Triad such a joke?
    I've been asking the same thing about Lord of Vermillion, honestly. What a waste of resources and time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardes View Post
    I've been asking the same thing about Lord of Vermillion, honestly. What a waste of resources and time.
    I've been saying the same thing about video games, honestly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonleg View Post
    I've been saying the same thing about video games, honestly.
    You could say the same thing about all of entertainment at this point.
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    Why couldnt they do something like in the "Final Fantasy App", still... to get all cards there is mostly impossible (some cards i have NEVER ever seen the enemy using)
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    Last edited by Yukiko; 10-30-2015 at 07:22 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Blackoutz View Post
    Naja ich hab einfach gemerkt, dass man mit Mut und Freundlichkeit viel weiter kommt und den Menschen eine Freude macht :3
    Weißt du, wenn wir alle an einem Strang hier im Forum ziehen, dann kommen wir einfach so viel weiter und stärken die gesammte Community <3

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    Lufie Newleaf
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    I would be happy just to see NPCs following the rules. Or change the rules so that the player is equal to them. If they can have three 4/5 star cards in a deck, then we should too. If random rule gives us cards of any star rating from a list of 100 different ones then npc should have a random deck too from that same big selection.
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    Tiger Undie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufalus View Post
    I would be happy just to see NPCs following the rules. Or change the rules so that the player is equal to them. If they can have three 4/5 star cards in a deck, then we should too. If random rule gives us cards of any star rating from a list of 100 different ones then npc should have a random deck too from that same big selection.
    why? to make it even more boring than most of the content ingame? (instances which are zero challenge etc.)
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