SE: Would you consider a melee caster class?

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

Sounds crazy, I know. But taking note that the first new DPS class was a melee class, Machinist is ranged physical, the trend would dictate that a caster would be the next DPS class introduced sometime later. Why not take the opportunity to mix things up a little and create a unique class in a melee fighter that deals magic damage? Perhaps a "Psychiccer" of sorts, if you will?

I'd envision its skills would perhaps involve direct physical/magic damage, buffs and debuffs, an AoE or two, and some mild support abilities. What do you think?

[Darkstride]

So....you want a Red Mage?

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

I know that sounds like a Red Mage, and I DO want that job added. But I more so envisioned a hand to hand fighter, perhaps with some type of focusing gloves as weapons. I'm at work right now and unfortunately can't fully flesh out the idea. But it does sound rather Red Mage-like otherwise.

Time will tell what we get, but the basic idea is no less interesting.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

Hell, call it a Red Monk if they like. Lol

[lyndwyrm]

Well, currently there's really not a whole lot of difference between someone that deals magic damage and physical damage apart from range and having cast times. If they added a melee dps class with cast times, the first thing I think of is how impossible it would be to hit moving targets. Generally that wouldn't be a problem outside of pvp, I'm really not sure how well that would work though. On the other hand, if they dealt magic damage, and had primarily instant casts, then they wouldn't be a whole lot different than any of the melee dps classes we have now.

I'm not opposed to the idea, and I'm sure they could make it interesting, but unless the type of damage we were dealing mattered more, it wouldn't make a whole lot of difference.

[Enkidoh]

The trouble is, I don't know how this could fit in the current idea of the Armoury System, where there is specific separation between melee classes (Disciples of War), and caster classes (Disciples of Magic). Red Mage is a jack-of-all-trades, master-of-none class, it has reasonable attack power which veers into the mediocre eventually with the ability to cast both White and Black Magic, while not excelling in either school of magic.

And because in FFXIV Job skills (i.e. Black and White Magic) are not shared cross-Job, it means Red Mage would not be able to use only get it's own unique skills in addition to a few cross-class spells (presumably from CNJ and THM) which kind of destroys the whole concept of it even being a RDM in the first place.

Hence, I doubt you will ever see RDM in FFXIV for this reason alone (and before you pass judgement, FF Tactics had both BLM and WHM but never had RDM either - at least, not the original FFT anyway.). But may Yoshi prove me wrong though!

[Roxas_Andrade]

OP, you want a Dancer \o/

[Eloah]

OP, you want a Dancer \o/

No a Dancer would be more of a melee healer or support class, and even then their attacks would probably be physical.

It sounds to me like the OP wants a slight variant on Geomancer. If you look at how they have been portrayed in the series it could work. They are usually the most sturdy of any mage-type class. They use bells as their main weapon, which could be adjusted to maces or a combination of the two. Their spells have always been instant cast. And they don't rely too heavily on MP. I think SE could work the class into being a deciple of magic that uses a weapon (bells, maces, etc) to cast instant up close magic attacks. It could be similar to Red Mage or Mystic/Rune Knight, but possibly a little different. I know I made a Geomancer concept and made them a Tank class, (link in the bottom if people are interested in looking at it) but I could adjust the concept to fit as a regular DPS as well. I was planning on making adjustments to the mock versions I made once Heavensward was released and I got more info on the new jobs and new abilities.

OP does that sound like what you meant?

[Iromi]

That would be Red Mage. I hope they add it eventually, it is a classic FF job

[elemental10]

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