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  1. #1
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    Cynfael's Avatar
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    SCH: Fairy's Embrace healing power scaling down with level increase past 50

    Fairy Embrace skill getting weaker as caster levels up past 50. Have not yet tested Whispering Dawn on Eos. Will check tomorrow, or maybe someone else can confirm?



    Date & Time:

    Persistent bug - always occurring

    Frequency:

    1.Always

    Character Name:

    Testament De'anris

    Race:

    Au Ra M

    World:

    Faerie

    Class/Level:

    SCH/57 - but have noticed this getting worse with each level after 50

    Area and Coordinates:

    Anywhere

    Party or Solo:

    Party and Solo

    NPC Name:

    None

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    None

    In-Game Time:

    Persistent issue.

    Steps:

    Compare Embrace cast by a lvl 56+ Selene or Eos to that cast by lvl 50 or lower. HP restored measurably decreases rather than increases (without changing equipment).
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  2. #2
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    Culfinrandir Caladel
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    Leviathan
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    Fisher Lv 70
    I've seen several reports of this online and we wondered if it was down to the removal/reduction of DET on the new healer gear. However, if you've not changed any gear then something is definitely amiss. I know I'm getting less than I'd expect via embrace.
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    Rin Shiraishi
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    Warrior Lv 60
    Can confirm there's something weird about Embrace.

    At level 50, with item level 130, mid-600s MND, mid-200s DET and 82 Magical Damage, my non-critical (or critical-adjusted) Embraces were splashing for an average of 1000~ or so, on myself.

    At level 56, with the same Magical Damage, samey DET and 27 MND more than before - my Embraces were only in the 950~ range on average, with similar methodology.

    Now, at level 58, where I got my first weapon upgrade - I'm up to 84 Magical Damage, in the 720s for MND, as well as 311 DET; my Embraces are still only splashing for about 970~ on myself.
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  4. #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Culfinrandir View Post
    I've seen several reports of this online and we wondered if it was down to the removal/reduction of DET on the new healer gear. However, if you've not changed any gear then something is definitely amiss. I know I'm getting less than I'd expect via embrace.
    Has nothing at all to do with gear; the issue can be noted without using a single piece of new equipment.

    Besides, you would have to somehow manage to replace most or all of your DET from gear to notice the kind of difference we are talking about.

    Good rule of thumb: if your personal heals are getting stronger or at least staying the same, your fairy's Embrace should perform similarly since her attributes are scaled off of yours.
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Probably is the same as in warcraft, as you level the amount of points needed in each stat to maintain or grow the power increases per level. If you are not upgrading gear then yes i would expect that the healing would be going down as your level goes up. Just a thought to add to this topic.
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  6. #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by AsteriaStarfall View Post
    Probably is the same as in warcraft, as you level the amount of points needed in each stat to maintain or grow the power increases per level. If you are not upgrading gear then yes i would expect that the healing would be going down as your level goes up. Just a thought to add to this topic.
    What I don't understand is that, if this is truly the case, why would the player's heals be going up while the fairy's heals go down?
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    Much Sabin
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    What I don't understand is that, if this is truly the case, why would the player's heals be going up while the fairy's heals go down?
    In this case, the player's heals will be going up because we work off an objective system. More MND = more hp/cure, thus gaining a level = more MND = more hp/cure. AsteriaStarfall is saying the fairy might be working off a subjective system, where the amount of MND needed to boost the fairy's heal beyond the base increases with level. The base amount healed by the fairy will increase, but we won't notice it until we upgrade our gear.

    I'll give some hypothetical numbers to demonstrate, with the assumption that increased MND is only due to leveling, no gear change:
    Level 50, 600 MND ----> 300 base mnd = 500 heal, 300 additional mnd = 500 heal.
    Level 51, 620 MND ----> 340 base mnd = 550 heal, 280 additional MND = 450 heal.
    Level 52, 640 MND ----> 380 base MND = 600 heal, 260 additional MND = 400 heal.
    ...etc.
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  8. #8
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    Interesting. Maybe this issue will resolve itself when we're geared at 60, then.
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