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    Healers will be expected to DPS in alexander, they've said this.

    Astro and Scholar has moves that ignore accuracy so the only issue is white mage.

    I thought they said they were going to give an accuracy buff to cleric stance...

    Anyway, sounds like you're grasping at straws here. 2.x gear had no accuracy either (like 5 points on a chest piece isn't enough to even do anything, honestly, so I still consider that none) yet, healers were still expected to DPS the best they could....so I don't see the issue.

    As long as Bio, Bio 2, Combust, and the other astro DoT ignores accuracy, those classes at the least will be expected to contribute. Sorry.
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    Last edited by FoxyAreku; 06-22-2015 at 08:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    Healers will be expected to DPS in alexander, they've said this.
    Actually no, that came from a mistranslated live letter that a player did, and everyone started believing this. The official translation had Yoshi-p saying that, when designing content, they do not count healer DPS contributions. Instead they add up the total DPS contributions of damage dealers and tank roles (assuming top-teir play) and subtract 10-15% off to allow for player/mechanic variances. I am at work so don't have the link, but when I get home I'll look for it. Think I bookmarked it since everyone kept throwing around the myth of "healer DPS is needed."

    Basically, if your raid group absolutely NEEDS a healer to DPS to pass a mechanic, either A) the DD jobs are under-geared, or B) the DD jobs aren't doing their jobs properly. Healer DPS is purely optional, and really only necessary if you're tackling raids at a 10-15 ilevel difference below the recommended value.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velox View Post
    Actually no, that came from a mistranslated live letter that a player did, and everyone started believing this. The official translation had Yoshi-p saying that, when designing content, they do not count healer DPS contributions. Instead they add up the total DPS contributions of damage dealers and tank roles (assuming top-teir play) and subtract 10-15% off to allow for player/mechanic variances. I am at work so don't have the link, but when I get home I'll look for it. Think I bookmarked it since everyone kept throwing around the myth of "healer DPS is needed."

    Basically, if your raid group absolutely NEEDS a healer to DPS to pass a mechanic, either A) the DD jobs are under-geared, or B) the DD jobs aren't doing their jobs properly. Healer DPS is purely optional, and really only necessary if you're tackling raids at a 10-15 ilevel difference below the recommended value.
    Dunno if your first paragraph is true, I'll look into it, but the second part is a bunch of excuses, honestly.

    Whether it's needed or not is irrelevant, if you have the power to be doing 200 dps (which every healer in coil could easily do with some effort and RNG), there is literally no reason to not do it unless you are A: Lazy. Or B: Too unfamiliar with the fight to know when you can.

    Call me elitist, but I'll never understand why people choose to do less than they are able. It's why I don't understand these healer dps debates that are such a hot button issue on these forums. It's irrelevant if the game expects you to do it, it's more something you should expect from yourself. :/

    Though I will say I tend to be more lenient towards white mages since they're less DPS-able than scholars are.
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    Last edited by FoxyAreku; 06-22-2015 at 08:44 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    As long as Bio, Bio 2, Combust, and the other astro DoT ignores accuracy, those classes at the least will be expected to contribute. Sorry.
    SCH is hurt tremendously by 0 ACC. Aero, Energy Drain(Dissipate gives you 3 more), Miasma, Broil, and even Ruin are a huge part of SCH DPS, and with 0 ACC that DPS doesn't look good anymore. Especially with Broil's MP cost and Energy Drain being locked behind Aetherflow Stacks.

    I'd sooner use AT over SCH in end-game content considering these changes. Either that or just take the i170 book, and meld Savage Aim 5 on everything else.
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