THF didn't scuk b4 75 in fact it's one of the more usefull jobs their was, the problem is THF was only wanted for TH @ 75, THF is the was best puller in the game (only matched by COR 40+ now) then @ lvl30 you get SaTa @ 60 you get accomplace one very small portion of the THF's role is TH but ppl who never played THF beleived TH is all THF was good for.
I always thought THF was awesome to play and did great dmg and good hate displacement at 30+. But the community itself didn't agree and would rather have a SAM, WAr, MNK, ertc.. RNG pulled better than THF... Well because it's a RNG. I remember trying to out pull a RNG as a THF from 40-74 and RNG just owned at it. Reason of leveling a THF mainly was for TH ability for farming, Flee was awesome for that burst speed from point A to B, NM farming, etc... Other than that people would take another class over a THF. I spent most of my time making my own groups as a THF. I miss it tho honestly, Seal Fate on PLD or SATA off two NIN's was so much fun. I would go play FFXI again, but it isn't the same anymore. It's to easy mode now.

As it is atm i wouldn't P2P either and it's not lack of content or the content it self, it's because the content that is there doesn't work. there is too many actual "bugs" in this game to make me pay to play it, i don't care if they put the wrong ability on a class or they made a weapon do less dmg then it was ment to (both fake examples), i care that after i get a raise i have to change gear to make my char visible again and that the path mappiing is so bad the players apper to run through/over walls.
I care more about the mechanics and everything else than the minor bugs, I don't think people understand the MMO curve of you either make a great game or it fails. When FFXI came out there wasn't to much else to play besides EQ, Ragnarok, Ultima, Planet Side, and some others. Now there is so many games to play that if a game fails like Rift for example it's over. There is no coming back, or making it work. It's over, the whole point to this thread is that by the time that FFXIV is close to enjoyable that there will be other great games out like Star Wars, Tera, and Guild Wars 2, maybe even the new Blizzard game Titan; FFXIV will get left in the dark. Nothing that can be done about it, it's just the way of the really fast paced gaming community today. It sucks, because this could have been an awesome game, but SE decided to put noob programmers at the helm and met it's demise before it was started. porting FFXI to a better engine would be a whole new game, but would be better than this crap honestly. I thought FF10 amd FFX-2 was bad, until I played this. Not trying to offend, but this game is just so bad it could never be fixed.

Agreed in FFIII if you swithced to dragoon there was no wyvern, but they are cool, LNC isn't dragoon though. This would be a good topic if they add a dragoon job and didn't give it a wyvern.
It was FFIV that had the first Dragoon, never released in US. FFXI had the Dragon with the super cute wyvern. His point was that the Lancer was the first ever Dragoon from FFIV, mine was that the Dragoon in FFXI was so much better. :P