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    Nanaya's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eekiki View Post
    That's not exactly what's being said. More like "It's gotten a lot better, but there's still a lot more work to do."
    Mostly this. If the game was still as terrible as it was in March, I would have never bothered picking it back up again. The fact that it's made it this far shows the new dev team understands to an extent what the players want, and are trying to be as accommodating as possible. There's still a myriad of problems this game faces, but then again, it's gone from terminally ill, dead on arrival, to very playable as a free-to-play MMO, so I'm willing to give them a 12 month grace period to see if they can do what I at first thought was impossible.
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    i think what the polls show is a decent amount of people still have faith. But they arent really in love with what they have now. interesting
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    The game has improved drastically since it's failure to launch in September. Just look at the "Do you remember?" thread to see how far we've come. But when asked for an emotional response (How do you feel...?) You get a Neutral answer because the game right now has little to be EXCITED! about.

    Outside of chocobos, who is EXCITED! about the beastmen strongholds, the lower level dungeons, the materia crafting system... the... UI adjustments?

    The main story is going very slowly, there are no real Super-Villains out there even if you count the new information on the vague Imperial threat. There's little to do for people who have been with the game since September last year (plenty to do for those rejoining/just joining us.) So even though we are likely to keep playing... our emotion reaction is... /meh
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    This poll is moot, you should place it on a website non-related to FFXIV where fans and non-fans can post, because this forum community does not equal the entire populous of players and non-players of the game. biased poll is biased.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AsterBarnivere View Post
    This poll is moot, you should place it on a website non-related to FFXIV where fans and non-fans can post, because this forum community does not equal the entire populous of players and non-players of the game. biased poll is biased.
    Translation: The poll results don't match up with my opinion therefore it's wrong.

    Biased post is biased.
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    Its not biased at all and its not even attempting to poll everyone. However, it will give a nice picture of part of what the community thinks. To be completely honest, non-fans have no right of even offering suggestions, comments, or even being allowed to poll seeing as they aren't even involved with the game, so giving them that kind of opportunity on some off-site is what would be moot.
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    Last edited by Keftenk; 09-20-2011 at 01:31 AM.

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    Player Azurus's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keftenk View Post
    Its not biased at all and its not even attempting to poll everyone. However, it will give a nice picture of part of what the community thinks. To be completely honest, non-fans have no right of even offering suggestions, comments, or even being allowed to poll seeing as they aren't even involved with the game, so giving them that kind of opportunity on some off-site is what would be moot.
    This is as false a statement u can make...What about the 100s of thousands of people that ledt this game? and because they left they cant post in the forums? Do these people opinions not matter? The very large majority of people who own a copy of FFXIV do not play it. and this is FACT. So yes polling a small sample of people who all obviously have the same mind set besides a very few is a moot poll. There are so many people that own this game that cant poll so you are only getting the biased opinions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurus View Post
    This is as false a statement u can make...What about the 100s of thousands of people that ledt this game? and because they left they cant post in the forums? Do these people opinions not matter? The very large majority of people who own a copy of FFXIV do not play it. and this is FACT. So yes polling a small sample of people who all obviously have the same mind set besides a very few is a moot poll. There are so many people that own this game that cant poll so you are only getting the biased opinions.
    Thats the thing though They should not ever be polled till they actually play FFXIV in it's current state. Because all they will do is answer it as the previous state at which point they quit. So if they want to answer the survey they should play XIV now or post 1.19 for a whole week then I believe they have a right to take that survey. Because they will be just as biased as those that still play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xmbei View Post
    Thats the thing though They should not ever be polled till they actually play FFXIV in it's current state. Because all they will do is answer it as the previous state at which point they quit. So if they want to answer the survey they should play XIV now or post 1.19 for a whole week then I believe they have a right to take that survey. Because they will be just as biased as those that still play.
    Exactly, it's a statistical minefield.

    You have to employ a lot of techniques to get valid data. And unfortunately, the poll in the OP was conducted on a poor choice of sample population.
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    Ichi Cero
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    Quote Originally Posted by User201109011315 View Post
    Exactly, it's a statistical minefield.

    You have to employ a lot of techniques to get valid data. And unfortunately, the poll in the OP was conducted on a poor choice of sample population.
    Ok statistics major talking here lets get down to brass tacks. The poll is a questionnaire to ffxiv gamers, that is obvious as it is posted on the forums where only active account holders can know about it. This post is not misrepresenting popular opinions of the players. The players are the ones voting. People who quit the game have no bearing on the questions. This poll isn't attempting to ask questions to the majority of the world. You wouldn't poll people in war torn Uganda on their opinions over the Greek nations riots.

    Keyword here is relevance and non-players are irrelevant.
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