Summoner Changes Compiled: Is there more?

[Divine_Intervention]

which can be stacked up to 3. You can still gain stacks and use Aetherflow while in Dreadwyrm Trance.

Can you explain this please? I've just unlocked dreadwyrm trance and other than activating it after using 3 aetherflow abilities i'm not too sure what you mean yet, but it sounds interesting!

[Havenchild]

Can you explain this please? I've just unlocked dreadwyrm trance and other than activating it after using 3 aetherflow abilities i'm not too sure what you mean yet, but it sounds interesting!

So each time you use an Aetherflow ability, you get a stack of a new buff (only appears after you learn Dreadwyrm Trance). This buff operates like a passive that stacks up to 3 full stacks. When you have 3 stacks, you can now use the skill Dreadwyrm Trance, in which it converts those 3 stacks you have, into a 15s buff. When you are in this 15s window however, you can still use Aetherflow abilities should you have AF stacks available and this will still grant you an additional stack of the passive even with you currently in Dreadwyrm Trance, thus you can go into the Trance rapidly if you time out the passive buff well. You have 30 seconds to use another AF skill to refresh the passive, before it falls off completely.

[SovereignAegis]

We have no new egi skins/glamors?

[Fatshine]

We have no new egi skins/glamors?

Not at the moment, but in a future update egi glamour will be implemented. The new ones will have the same attacks/potencies, just have different animations to feel unique.

[Tharian]

am I reading this correctly that on my Summoner I only need to gear for 515 Accuracy for Turn 13, instead of the 535 that I used to need to gear for thanks to the pet now using rear accuracy instead of flank?

[GideonHighmourn]

I just wanna chime in here, since I recently hit 60 on ACN. Although I primary SCH, I always kept SMN geared incase.

SMN's skills look awesome, and their AoE potency is equally as awesome; however, they still lack in single target damage. 3.0 still hasn't given SMN a spamable attack besides Ruin II, and Ruin III only has a 120 potency while Broil (SCH) is a spamable 170 potency attack. Broil has a normal MP cost attached to it, and Ruin III should only be cast while in Dreadwyrm Trance due to the insane MP cost.

Deathflare is pretty good, but it's a 400 potency attack that can be used once every 45 seconds or so. A flashy way to finish Dreadwyrm attack, but by the time you've set-up three stacks of Aether for this, most of the mobs will have died already. It's super flashy, but all the set-up you have to do will likely result in you never actually using it, or only using it on the last remaining enemy. In boss fights, you might use it quite a few times.

New Tri-Disaster is better, but it's still meh. Since we have no spammable single-target attack besides Ruin II, it doesn't really help improve DPS that dramatically; it's more for convenience, to me.

Enkindle CD reduction is nice, but it still feels a little lack luster on the DPS it contributes, especially since it's still a rather long CD. You might use it twice in some of the longer boss fights now; however, it's primarily a way to deal more DPS during trash pulls than anything.

I feel like my SCH puts out slightly lower numbers in AoE pulls, but quite similar numbers in boss pulls. SMN is in a better place than in 2.0, but that's primarily due to cap of Bane being removed. It still needs a better spam skill for ST damage, and the potency #s for Ruin III and Deathflare need to be adjusted, still, IMO.

[Neela]

Deathflare is pretty good, but it's a 400 potency attack that can be used once every 45 seconds or so. A flashy way to finish Dreadwyrm attack, but by the time you've set-up three stacks of Aether for this, most of the mobs will have died already. It's super flashy, but all the set-up you have to do will likely result in you never actually using it, or only using it on the last remaining enemy. In boss fights, you might use it quite a few times.

Uhm have u ever tried Deathflare on lvl 60 mobs? I use it on nearly every mob encounter i ran into... starting with (swiftcasted) Shadowflare, Tri-saster, Bane, Fester, Painflare > Bahamuts Trance, Ruin lll spam > Deathflare. It only takes around 5 secs to come to the Ruin lll part - 10 secs to Deathflare. Never encountered an HW mob which died before Deathflare was ready...

[Fatshine]

am I reading this correctly that on my Summoner I only need to gear for 515 Accuracy for Turn 13, instead of the 535 that I used to need to gear for thanks to the pet now using rear accuracy instead of flank?

Yes

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[NorthernLadMSP]

Interesting statement Gideon. You said you hit 60 on ACN. Does that mean that SMN and SCH get leveled together like they used to in ARR days? Or, do you need to level them separately?

Also (since I have only been leveling AST so far), did they finally make the change to SMN/SCH attribute stats and separate them? Or, is it still one combined pool?

[Tharian]

Interesting statement Gideon. You said you hit 60 on ACN. Does that mean that SMN and SCH get leveled together like they used to in ARR days? Or, do you need to level them separately?

Why would they have changed that feature?