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  1. #51
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    Keep autoattack then if you have such a crush on it, but still make combat not suck.

    Lol at Gramul saying this is "fluff". In case you hadn't noticed, combat is a pretty big part of the game, and obviously Yoshi thought the same since it was apparently his biggest priority of his entire life to add autoattack. (even though it fixed nothing and only added more problems).

    Fixing the combat system does not equal automating it.

    fix =/= autopilot snoozefest.

    Look, they've already made combat boring and now they want to make crafting boring too. What's left? Sidequests? Yipeee. (owait, no)
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    Last edited by User201109011315; 09-19-2011 at 09:55 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by User201109011315 View Post
    even though it fixed nothing and only added more problems
    We can still kill things the same as before. I don't see how auto-attack caused any 'problems' apart from causing a small minority of players to complain about it.

    The only thing that can be said, which has been said time and time and time again only people don't listen, is that since they're STILL fixing the games core system and mechanics, auto-attack is not the end of the changes to the battle system, it is only the beginning of the changes. As more patches come out to alter the battle system, it will be changed and enhanced so that players won't care about how long auto-attack takes.

    The only options open to players who don't like the current battle system 'whilst we wait for the rest of it to be enhanced' is to either go and play another game untill the patch comes out that finally marks the totality of the battle systems operation, or deal with it like the players who aren't complaining about it are whilst waiting for the changes. simply complaining about it's current operation isn't magically going to make S.E change it within a matter of days or weeks, it takes a lot of time and hard work to rebuild a games core functions, and it's not just the battle systems they have to work on right now, it's pretty much everything. If they focus all on one thing, such as the battle system, then players who are more interested in crafting, exploring, doing leves, dungeons or quests will all have to wait even longer for their changes and content.

    The way they're doing it now is to have each patch change and fix multiple different parts of the game which benefits EVERY player, not just the ones that like to fight all the time. Give them a bit of patience and eventually the battle system will be what you want, untill then complaining about it isn't going to change anything. If you really want to do something about it, offer suggestions and ideas of what you'd want the battle system to be like when it's finished.

    The OP offered suggestions such as being able to move around much more during combat, which is a constructive idea that S.E could consider. A little more detail as to how this would operate and be used would be good so as people would get a better idea of what they'd see in a fight with functions such as that.
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    Last edited by Konachibi; 09-19-2011 at 10:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zalasta View Post
    I understand what you are trying to say, but there is only so much you can do in a MMORPG.
    Other games in the genre are trying to push those boundaries, which I think is great. I wish FFXIV were a part of that... actually, another year under Tanaka and it might have in a totally different way. Don't know if it'd have been a good or bad thing though.
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    game needs more action a more player involved battle system dodgeing and jumps also running while casting and shooting FFS its a new gen mmo thats been out a year and nothing has HONESTLY been done... woopdey damn do auto attack (which sucks unless your a melee attacker) and 2 dungeons (which honestly having a 60 minute time limit are the worst dungeons in video game history. run through spam sleep kill 2 bosses in 60 minutes) worst idea to add game timers to dungeons....needs more action needs more action needs more action needs more action needs more action needs more action oh and timers dont give game difficulty....
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    People know standing still and battling is boring......so why not change it and if you dont agree with what that then you shouldnt be aloud to comment on battle changes... this game hasnt gotten better....nothings changed....and its even gotten a bit slower....*Sleeps Toad* *Accidently Auto Attacks Waking Toad Before Could Passive* *Sleep On CD* *Gets Raped* *Shoulda Been Melee* *Lame* Only Good For Melee Auto Attack....And Shouldnt Be Applied To Ranged And Where Is This Character Control And Movement That Games 6+Years Old (MMO Wise Even) HAVE BEEN HAD! You Guys Are So Stuck On Remembering FFXI That You Dont Remember HOW BORING 11 WAS With the menu combat system that felt like a suped up PS1 FF battle system it was old still is old and will never be fun again its movement control and action that makes games fun not standing still pressing a button....ITS THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IN THE GAME AND NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED NOW!
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    Eff waiting on auto attack to be "enhanced" kinda crap are you hopin for?!?!?! its a myth ..... unless they take auto attack from ranged chars allow on melee only itll never be good..... We NEED MORE ACTION!
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    I can understand your frustration but you're going a bit overboard with this. Calm down and offer constructive ideas on what and how you would like the battle system to be changed.

    And lay off the sugar and caffeine, k?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Konachibi View Post
    I can understand your frustration but you're going a bit overboard with this. Calm down and offer constructive ideas on what and how you would like the battle system to be changed.

    And lay off the sugar and caffeine, k?
    Not gonna happen i love drugs and good games and rage on bad games and this is just one of those games....this is no matter the "Creative" or new battle system idea ANYONE offers them it cannot be put into effect because it took them more than half a year to release a simple autoattack that did nothing and they will not spend time redoing for a better physics system or a better battle system after all of that....both of their battle systems have failed....and its taken a year to release 1 major patch (which wasnt even that ground breaking or massive) with 1 more patch released after the year mark.....nothing has changed nothing will change for the next 2-3 years and by that time its already outta date hell its outta date now
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    Quote Originally Posted by PikachuLink View Post
    Not gonna happen i love drugs and good games and rage on bad games and this is just one of those games....this is no matter the "Creative" or new battle system idea ANYONE offers them it cannot be put into effect because it took them more than half a year to release a simple autoattack that did nothing and they will not spend time redoing for a better physics system or a better battle system after all of that....both of their battle systems have failed....and its taken a year to release 1 major patch (which wasnt even that ground breaking or massive) with 1 more patch released after the year mark.....nothing has changed nothing will change for the next 2-3 years and by that time its already outta date hell its outta date now
    m'kay... think that's another one to the ignore list.

    You keep on raging and we'll just keep on pretending you're not here.

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    thing is behind all this rage i have i wanted this game to succeed so badly i was a fan of FFXI cause it was decent back in the day but i cant go back and play it now its to stiff and boring. i have NEVER in my whole life anticipated a game as much as i did FFXIV and when it came out last september i said (ill give it a few months) well its been a year now and i still look at it in dissapointment.....im so angry.....cause they took the 1 game ive been looking foward to for YEARS AND YEARS and its a mess...
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