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  1. #111
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    Quote Originally Posted by User201109011315 View Post
    The thing is, FF was not sold as "Boring autoattack combat as per typical FF title" but instead: "active combat system where positioning matters"

    So people that say FFXIV should have autoattack and no emphasis on position/movement shouldn't have bought the game.

    Silly people.
    The other thing is:
    1) The game it was sold as is long dead and it died with the Dev switch and player polls.
    2) The previous active combat system was cumbersome and was one of the biggest complaints from reviewers and players alike. We all gave it a try, and most of us didn't like how it turned out, and it's not like auto attack has ruined it, you just don't have to button mash to regularly attack.
    3) Positioning still matters and hasn't been changed.
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  2. #112
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    3) Positioning still matters and hasn't been changed.
    Exactly. Positioning means getting into an optimal position where you would be most effective relative to the positions of your allies and enemies. Positioning does not mean using flips, spins and somersaults to duck in and out of attacks.
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    Also to put in the game was sold as being revolved around guildleves but that has changed in i believe in a producer letter so that could mean the active battle system could have changed too.
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  4. #114
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    I imagine when the game is relaunched for PS3 it will be marketed very differently to what it was a year ago.
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  5. #115
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    It'll certainly be a first in history, a game that gets put on sale for one thing pops up a year and a half later on a different platform as something quite different, but is still technically the same game.

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    I understand where your coming from but you have to understand this is the tried and true formula for Final Fantasy games and it will never change. Some of us actually enjoy the style of gameplay. Besides a large majority of us (which includes the other regions such as japan and europe) voted to bring this system in to play. I have no problem with it. I couldn't get the feel of the new system right away with my old character so I deleted my first character and started over. With a new pair of eyes I fell in love with the system, It has the nostalgia of FFXI as well as improves upon the old gameplay style.

    Maybe this isn't the game for you dude, Honestly wait until Tera Online and Guild Wars 2 comes out, I think you'll be a lot happier with those titles instead. Also no offense to you but you wont be missed and I'm sure once you play those games you wont miss us either.
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  7. #117
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liniont View Post
    I understand where your coming from but you have to understand this is the tried and true formula for Final Fantasy games and it will never change. Some of us actually enjoy the style of gameplay. Besides a large majority of us (which includes the other regions such as japan and europe) voted to bring this system in to play. I have no problem with it. I couldn't get the feel of the new system right away with my old character so I deleted my first character and started over. With a new pair of eyes I fell in love with the system, It has the nostalgia of FFXI as well as improves upon the old gameplay style.

    Maybe this isn't the game for you dude, Honestly wait until Tera Online and Guild Wars 2 comes out, I think you'll be a lot happier with those titles instead. Also no offense to you but you wont be missed and I'm sure once you play those games you wont miss us either.
    I dunno, I'd feel sorry for the people that met him in those games too, especially if they tried to have a conversation.

    Kinda hard to understand 'wheneverythingyousaycomesoutlikethis'

  8. #118
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    When even running is out of sync when played over the network I'd love to see how this would work.

    As a purely aesthetic change it might look a bit off, if you make it so that dodges, etc, are controllable then you suddenly create a networking nightmare. What appears to be a dodge to the player dodging can look like they've been hit to others around them.

    Its not impossible, I believe one of the classes in GW2 has a dodging ability but given the framework FFXIV is built on I can't see it happening here.
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  9. #119
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    This is funny.

    I'm not sure if it needs to be an action MMO to be honest.
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    wait this thread is still living!? LOLWUT
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