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  1. #1
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    Xisin's Avatar
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    Xisin Fendada
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    Sargatanas
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    thundercloud doesn't get astral fire bonuses
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    waifugenerator's Avatar
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    Shatotto Totto
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    Gilgamesh
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    Black Mage Lv 92
    It's be cool if they could give you an oGCD that lets you move while casting for 10s at like 1/4 or 1/2 potency, it wouldn't fix a lot of the issues but it'd at least be a bandaid
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    Misty Mew
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    Hyperion
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    imo blm needs some serious tweaking hotfixed today, to adapt to continual excessive never ending, overused, ridiculous, movement fights.

    ease off of the non stop aoe or extend timers.

    you did bad se...

    (99% of the xpac is awwesomeeeeee!!!!! but blm changes are not.)
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    MORE HIGH HEELS + INSTANCED HOUSING! !

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    Lanfear Sessurea
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 60
    Havent played blm/smn outside of loldungeons, but if blm and smn are parsing equally on a dummy there is a very serious issue here. It's as dumb as a bard out dpsing a monk on a dummy almost.

    New blm rotation is "rocket science" as me and my friend often joke. BLM was always the hardest class to optimize a fight on ( and by optimize I mean near top possible dps for a blm in that fight ) and now with stuff like leylines and enochion it's seems just.....overwhelming on a dummy, god I can't even imagine what it would be like in a stressful raid setting.
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    Last edited by Sessurea; 06-28-2015 at 01:01 AM.

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    Woggers's Avatar
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    Aldoric Firepeak
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    Adamantoise
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    Scholar Lv 60
    Loving the changes to BLM! The step up in difficulty is much welcomed. You are a destructive force when you are able to keep Enochian up 100% of the time. I've had a blast reworking my rotation, and I'm getting to that point to where Enochian is always up. It's great to watch these high HP mobs just melt before the power of getting hit 3 x Fire IV then a proc-ed Fire III. Amaze balls. For all the haters, GIT GUD.
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    Fara Venator
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    Coeurl
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Woggers View Post
    Loving the changes to BLM! The step up in difficulty is much welcomed. You are a destructive force when you are able to keep Enochian up 100% of the time. I've had a blast reworking my rotation, and I'm getting to that point to where Enochian is always up. It's great to watch these high HP mobs just melt before the power of getting hit 3 x Fire IV then a proc-ed Fire III. Amaze balls. For all the haters, GIT GUD.
    Im glad SE doesnt balance classes around killing B ranks. It's nice to see you're having a great adventure killing random monsters in zones though. keep it up!
    However don't comment about class balance in a raiding environement if you don't raid
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    Last edited by hallena; 06-28-2015 at 01:18 AM.

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    Woggers's Avatar
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    Aldoric Firepeak
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    Adamantoise
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    Scholar Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by hallena View Post
    Im glad SE doesnt balance classes around killing B ranks. It's nice to see you're having a great adventure killing random monsters in zones though. keep it up!
    However don't comment about class balance in a raiding environement if you don't raid
    Wow I'm sorry my success hurts you so! I do raid btw, check out my lodestone, I don't hide my achievements. Remember there will always be people more skilled than others. It seems that this time is one of those cases. Hope you figure out the new rotation! If you have any questions on what to do I'll be more than happy to leave so tips for you.
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    Philia Felice
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    Gilgamesh
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Woggers View Post
    Wow I'm sorry my success hurts you so! I do raid btw, check out my lodestone, I don't hide my achievements. Remember there will always be people more skilled than others. It seems that this time is one of those cases. Hope you figure out the new rotation! If you have any questions on what to do I'll be more than happy to leave so tips for you.
    /checks Lodestone

    - no Savage, no EX Bismark/Ravana, only beaten T13 1-4 times with 15% echo

    Not to be a complete dick but ... what success? Probably shouldn't have referenced your Lodestone as a "I am raider hear me roar" gesture.

    Also I doubt anyone here can't do the dungeons properly with Enochian (the only endgame you've apparently seen in 3.0). Anyone can do the Enochian rotation, and keep it up in that environment. We're talking about mechanic heavy turns, which you might not understand will have actual DPS checks in proper gear when it's released, and a good SMN will have us at a disadvantage.

    The class is strong in its nature, there's no denying that. Closer to melee than we've EVER been. But the core of the class has been and always should be about mitigating mobility - now it has that same penalty, but we have longer casts (less chance to successfully stutter step dodge) while messing with Enochian timers, Astral Heat, CDs, Leylines. There are workarounds, compromises. I'm not even sure if Yoshi-P intended full Enochian or not at this point, perhaps BLM isn't designed to keep up with melee in every fight we can and that's the point. That said I just don't foresee patch 3.0 BLM thriving in the only hardcore raid content we'll have unless a tweak or two is thrown here or there, mostly extremely small ones unrelated to damage output.
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    Last edited by Sleigh; 06-28-2015 at 04:14 AM.

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    Fara Venator
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    Coeurl
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Woggers View Post
    Wow I'm sorry my success hurts you so! I do raid btw, check out my lodestone, I don't hide my achievements. Remember there will always be people more skilled than others. It seems that this time is one of those cases. Hope you figure out the new rotation! If you have any questions on what to do I'll be more than happy to leave so tips for you.
    I did look at your achievements before making my post. The only content you've done in heavensward is dungeons and hunts. Nothing that is mechanic heavy.
    If alexander savage is anything like bismarck extreme, Nobody will ever bring a blm over smn due to lower single target damage when movement/mechanic is involved. lower aoe, less utility and less mobility.
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    Last edited by hallena; 06-28-2015 at 04:16 AM.

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    Alayna Lazriel
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by hallena View Post
    I did look at your achievements before making my post. The only content you've done in heavensward is dungeons and hunts. Nothing that is mechanic heavy.
    If alexander savage is anything like bismarck extreme, Nobody will ever bring a blm over smn due to lower single target damage when movement/mechanic is involved. lower aoe, less utility and less mobility.
    The only part of your comment that really gets to me is the, "Nobody will ever bring a blm over a smn" part. Your static, maybe. I'm only saying I look at all of this as a challenge and I will accept that challenge. Regardless of what the fight is, there will be a way for me to do outstanding dps, whether you believe that or not. I have plenty faith in my abilities to make the best of any bad situation. My static currently knows what I can do and they are not pushing me to go SMN or kicking me out of the group for a SMN. Sure there will be the really great (And I mean REALLY great) summoners who will be able to out dps me in any fight, but I would still be willing to bet the farm that I'll still out dps the majority of SMNs in any raid. And we don't even know what Alexander is going to look like yet as far as mechanics, so I'm not sure why you're so hell bent on hating BLM
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