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  1. #271
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    Aikaal's Avatar
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    Aikaal Leyma
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Increasing astral fire by 2 or 3 secs would help blm out definitelt
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  2. #272
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    Judge_Xero's Avatar
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    Divine Gate
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    Exodus
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    Marauder Lv 60
    I'm main SMN so I leveled it first, but I also really like BLM (only lvl 51 atm so I haven't been able to play around with the class much)

    As part of the rotation and movement wise I'm curious if Transpose -> Thunder 3 -> B4 -> F3 would buy enough time for MP regen (Umbral I)

    I say movement wise, because if you are in a bind/danger of losing Enochian then how punishing would it be to Transpose B4 -> Thunder 3
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  3. #273
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    Sindri_Myr's Avatar
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    Sindri Myr
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    Moogle
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    I rarely lose Enochian to binding effects.
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  4. #274
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    seekified's Avatar
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    Karis Angara
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 80
    I saw a Reddit thread (can't find it at the moment) that said that using Thunder at all is a DPS loss now. He'd just Sharpcast into a F3 to keep Astral up then keep going with another three F4s before switching to Umbral and so forth, he seemed to level out around 1100 sustained. I'm not a BLM myself though, I'm just hugely interested in the intricacies of the jobs in this game.
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  5. #275
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    Dajinn's Avatar
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    Dajinn Valheru
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    I'd just like to see some mechanical tweaks to the casting of Fire 4 and Blizzard 4 in addition to duration increases to enochian and astral fire. Or make it as someone else proposed; fire 4 has a chance to proc firestarter OR it refreshes astral fire. The current rotation is doable but it just feels clunky.
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  6. #276
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    AresGodofwar's Avatar
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    Japella Sigma
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 60
    Knowing the fight helps a lot with Eno and the rotation, but certain fights will still make it very hard to keep it active all time for example the last boss @ Neverreap.. Hate that fight with passion lol

    those are my dps numbers so far:

    Neverreap - avg DPS for the whole dungeon 850 & bosses 760 - 1180
    Fractal - avg DPS for the whole dungeon 980 & bosses 950 - 1430

    I believe it's all about knowing the fight and know when to cast and not to cast to keep enochian up at all time.

    FYI as i'm still trying to learn and see what i should do and not do, but i never cast thunder unless it's a proc. bcz casting a normal thunder is a lose of dps so far when i test it and for aeo keeping enochian up at all time for that 5% damage is not worth it either. bcz that blizzard4 cast is a lost of dps as well in a AOE rotation.
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  7. #277
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    Marichella's Avatar
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    Marichella Redz
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    Ragnarok
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by AresGodofwar View Post
    Knowing the fight helps a lot with Eno and the rotation, but certain fights will still make it very hard to keep it active all time for example the last boss @ Neverreap.. Hate that fight with passion lol

    those are my dps numbers so far:

    Neverreap - avg DPS for the whole dungeon 850 & bosses 760 - 1180
    Fractal - avg DPS for the whole dungeon 980 & bosses 950 - 1430

    I believe it's all about knowing the fight and know when to cast and not to cast to keep enochian up at all time.

    FYI as i'm still trying to learn and see what i should do and not do, but i never cast thunder unless it's a proc. bcz casting a normal thunder is a lose of dps so far when i test it and for aeo keeping enochian up at all time for that 5% damage is not worth it either. bcz that blizzard4 cast is a lost of dps as well in a AOE rotation.
    I'm really curious to know your rotation with that dps on Neverreap... and also which is your ilvl? and which weapon are you using?
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  8. #278
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    Sindri_Myr's Avatar
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    Sindri Myr
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    Moogle
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Im curious to know when Square Enix will boot all them people that using third party software to check their dps.
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  9. #279
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    MetaRed's Avatar
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    Dwight Schrute
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    So I have been playing BLM at 60 for a few days now and have been learning how to maximize Fire 4 uptime in each of the current expert roullette encounters while gearing and in curious as to what people are using as their non opener rotation? In the past it was always F3,F1x5,B3,T1,B1 repeat but what I find myself doing now is erring on the safe side and doing F3, F4x2, F1 (with sharp cast if its up) F4x2 B3,B4 repeat.

    I'm not sure if this is the most efficient or ideal standard rotation as I'm still getting a feel for the new way BLM plays but this seems the safest non opener to keep Eno up and maintain my ability to cast fire 4. Anyone else have any ideas or suggestions? sometimes I can safely squeeze a 3rd fire 4 if I have a firestarter queued but if not its really kind of movement dependent if I can get a fire 1 out to keep astral 3 after a 3rd fire 4. it definitely doesn't feel like I can get 3 out safely.
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  10. #280
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    Aikaal's Avatar
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    Aikaal Leyma
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by AresGodofwar View Post
    Neverreap - avg DPS for the whole dungeon 850 & bosses 760 - 1180
    Fractal - avg DPS for the whole dungeon 980 & bosses 950 - 1430
    May we see those parses? As far I'm concerned. Black Mages get about 1.1k-1.2k DPS on a dummy so 1430 sounds really high.
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