How is BLM in new expansion?

[Aikaal]

Groups with summoner in the party instead of blm has cleared Final coil whitin 2 weeks of release. That 30 dps sure did wipe them hard did it?

The second group of DnT had a DRG and SMN and cleared on 3rd week. Didn't stop them to clear FCoB but they would have done it first/second week with the better jobs (Monk/BLM) It is fair to assume no matter the group comp your bring you'll be able to clear content. But not picking the better jobs makes it harder and longer to clear which contradicts the definition of progression. SUmmoner has an overwhelming edge over Black Mage right now.

All I'm seeing is, "Oh no. BLM is too hard now, I'm going to switch SMN so I can do better dps and ppl will want me more." lulz to all of that. BLM is fine, you just need to git gud

Fact is, if you can't pick up BLM and can't play it effectively, then switching to SMN isnt going to help you. If you are running a static and your current BLM isn't pulling adequate numbers, you need to replace the player, not the job. Don't discount a BLM from your group because you are under the impression they are weak and ineffective and summoner is better. You just need to find a player who can play the job effectively which is absolutely 100% completely doable

You are talking to most Black Mages that have done 570+ DPS in T11 pre-echo and are telling you the feel gimped because mechanics screw them more. Unless it's a 100% turret fight for BLM, this job will lack behind. The only reason why Summoner was behind BLM in FCoB was mana issues. We want balance and 2.5 like Sleight said was the closest we ever got. Personally, I am not saying I can't Alexander Savage as BLM. I'm just saying my group is pretty hardcore and they'll want the quickest clear and so am I so my options as their caster is to pick the most viable job. This is about our pride (At least for me it's my pride to be able to contribute as much as possible for my group) that leads me to go Summoner. I went Summoner for Savage T7 when my group asked, I did not question why or argued with them.

On this, my memories are fuzzy a bit but when Monk got buffed. Didn't they increase the time on Grease Lightning and increase the timer of Astral Fire + Umbral Ice could be a great help for us. I don't want more potency, jsut a way to make the rotation more viable with mechanics.

[Sleigh]

On this, my memories are fuzzy a bit but when Monk got buffed. Didn't they increase the time on Grease Lightning and increase the timer of Astral Fire + Umbral Ice could be a great help for us. I don't want more potency, jsut a way to make the rotation more viable with mechanics.

No GL3 duration buff but there was a Twin Snakes increase so you could rotate between it and True Strike easily, along with positionals/potency changes.

[Aikaal]

No GL3 duration buff but there was a Twin Snakes increase so you could rotate between it and True Strike easily, along with positionals/potency changes.

Ah ok thanks! Having a longer AF buff could help however :\

[Numenor1379]

Ah ok thanks! Having a longer AF buff could help however :\

Especially given that 2x F4's + 1 F1 is all you can fit in one AF timer currently. So if you have to move, you've got to drop one of the F4s lest your AF drop at a minimum... there's zero margin for error there now.

[HaroldSaxon]

No GL3 duration buff but there was a Twin Snakes increase so you could rotate between it and True Strike easily, along with positionals/potency changes.

Yes there was. It was increased in 2.1 if memory serves.

[Waliel]

Yes there was. It was increased in 2.1 if memory serves.

I'm pretty sure there was a 3 second increase near-ish launch.

[OneWingedSora]

You are talking to most Black Mages that have done 570+ DPS in T11 pre-echo and are telling you the feel gimped because mechanics screw them more.

Which is way it was disappointing to hear this from you. BLM has always been about learning the fight to maximize DPS. Sure, it's more punishing now, but it's also much more rewarding when you do it right. We don't even know how Alex SM will be like. For all we know, maybe you will have half the turns like T7/T8/T10/12. Let's wait until actual content that matters is out before we complain.

I tried doing T5/T11/T13 and my Enochian was up pretty much the entire fight save for the times when the boss goes offscreen. It just needs more practice.

[Aikaal]

Which is way it was disappointing to hear this from you. BLM has always been about learning the fight to maximize DPS. Sure, it's more punishing now, but it's also much more rewarding when you do it right. We don't even know how Alex SM will be like. For all we know, maybe you will have half the turns like T7/T8/T10/12. Let's wait until actual content that matters is out before we complain.

I tried doing T5/T11/T13 and my Enochian was up pretty much the entire fight save for the times when the boss goes offscreen. It just needs more practice.

I was gonna switch to SMN in SCoB but my group told me not. It's the only reason I stayed BLM back then. I learn to maximize my DPS in any fight on BLM and the only reason I stayed BLM with this in mind is because SMN has a major mana weakness. They do not have this weakness anymore but we kept ours and this is unbalancing the jobs.

I won't ever quit BLM but I won't play it in progression right now :P Just in farm content. How should I say it... I'm a main caster in my raid, not a main BLM so I pick the best available out of the two. If they are equal, I'll pick what I prefer which is BLM.

I'd love to get Thunder back in my rotation. I feel like a pure Fire Mage. Ignore thunder as much as possible and trying to staying in Ubral Ice for B4 only sounds really silly when we have 3 elements.

[Kailii]

I'd love to get Thunder back in my rotation. I feel like a pure Fire Mage. Ignore thunder as much as possible and trying to staying in Ubral Ice for B4 only sounds really silly when we have 3 elements.

Always been a problem, at least B4 adds additional urgency to swap to Ice phase. XIV blm is a fire mage first and foremost though as that's where our damage comes from. Not a fan of it, but it is what it is. Getting Thunder back to a useful spell should be a priority though as currently it is an edge case on when to use it.

If they ever added spell glamour and let me swap fire and thunder spells, I would do pretty much anything for that. (And updated their graphics to be more like Raiton)