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    If you were progressing content in the first few weeks then you know how important it was to push phases. Clearly that doesn't seem to be the case judging from your posts.
    Groups with summoner in the party instead of blm has cleared Final coil whitin 2 weeks of release. That 30 dps sure did wipe them hard did it?

    Good thing I don't care what a random person claims then.
    keep moving that goal post
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    Quote Originally Posted by hallena View Post
    Groups with summoner in the party instead of blm has cleared Final coil whitin 2 weeks of release. That 30 dps sure did wipe them hard did it?
    No, but it made it harder for them to clear it than if they had partied with a BLM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneWingedSora View Post
    No, but it made it harder for them to clear it than if they had partied with a BLM.
    1% can be the difference between hitting and enrage or not
    Make up your mind here sweetheart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hallena View Post
    Make up your mind here sweetheart.

    So you are saying the groups that cleared with Summoner never enraged ? For all you know, 50% of their wipes could've been avoided if they partied with a BLM. Jeez, why am I wasting my time on this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneWingedSora View Post
    So you are saying the groups that cleared with Summoner never enraged ? For all you know, 50% of their wipes could've been avoided if they partied with a BLM. Jeez, why am I wasting my time on this.
    So you're saying a group that hit enrage is 50% because they brought a summoner instead of a black mage? It couldn't possibly be anyone else's fault? people dying? healer not dpsing enough? Tanks not dpsing enough? Of course not. it's because summoners were doing 5% less dps than blm!
    Just stop now. You're making me believe the problem is you being a terrible summoner.
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    Last edited by hallena; 06-29-2015 at 08:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hallena View Post
    So you're saying a group that hit enrage is 50% because they brought a summoner instead of a black mage? Just stop now. You're making me believe the problem is you being a terrible summoner.
    I am saying they could've cleared faster and easier if they brought a BLM. Also, lol @ calling me a terrible summoner. Guess randoms will stay randoms. I am also not the one crying for BLM buffs and struggling to get really high numbers with it.

    Quote Originally Posted by hallena View Post
    So you're saying a group that hit enrage is 50% because they brought a summoner instead of a black mage? It couldn't possibly be anyone else's fault? people dying? healer not dpsing enough? Tanks not dpsing enough? Of course not. it's because summoners were doing 5% less dps than blm!
    Just stop now. You're making me believe the problem is you being a terrible summoner.
    It could be all those reasons AND a SMN doing less DPS. Your point ?


    Crap daily post limit, I was enjoying this snack.
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    Last edited by OneWingedSora; 06-29-2015 at 08:44 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneWingedSora View Post
    I am saying they could've cleared faster and easier if they brought a BLM. Also, lol @ calling me a terrible summoner. Guess randoms will stay randoms.
    The difference in time to kill a target with 1 million health with a group doing 2500 dps and 2530 is 4 seconds.
    I guess yes they could've killed it faster. woopdifreakingdoo, someone's cat could've caught on fire during that 4 seconds. i'm glad black mages were here to save the situation!
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneWingedSora View Post
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    You claimed nobody would bring [INSERTPERCEIVEDWORSECASTERHERE] to progression because 1% is the difference between wiping. Hallena countered that people did indeed clear progression content near release with [INSERTPERCEIVEDWORSECASTERHERE] and you changed your argument to "Yeah well that doesn't mean they didn't wipe." Parties with [INSERTBETTERCASTERHERE] wiped as well. It's all well and good to point to DPS from parses on dummies for theorycrafting purposes, but that's only under 100% perfect play that will RARELY be achieved. What matters far more than whatever silly theorycrafted perfect circumstantial DPS is the player's ability to play their job and adapt to the party's playstyle, while you are trying to view a dummy-parsed DPS in a vacuum. All jobs are viable and all are likely going to clear Alex in progression groups. People are way overblowing how bad jobs are right now when they really only need a few tweaks.
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    Peach Parfait/Khulan Angura on Gilgamesh