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    Quote Originally Posted by OneWingedSora View Post
    If by pretty damn close you mean 30-40 DPS difference then yeah, sure.
    If you consider 30 dps a big difference when 500 dps is the norm then there is no point in even arguing with you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hallena View Post
    If you consider 30 dps a big difference when 500 dps is the norm then there is no point in even arguing with you.
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    In progression 30-40 DPS difference is a pretty big deal, yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneWingedSora View Post
    In progression 30-40 DPS difference is a pretty big deal, yes.
    No it isn't when the group dps is over 2500. That's slightly more than 1%
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    Quote Originally Posted by hallena View Post
    No it isn't when the group dps is over 2500. That's slightly more than 1%
    1% can be the difference between hitting and enrage or not
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneWingedSora View Post
    1% can be the difference between hitting and enrage or not
    I don't even know why i'm replying at this point. If the boss enrage at 1% then tell your warrior to drop his tanking stance when offtanking. Or tell your healer to stop spamming cure II/adlo so the bard can sing less.
    30 dps added to 2500 dps fighting a boss with 1million hp is literally 3-4 seconds saved
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    Quote Originally Posted by hallena View Post
    I don't even know why i'm replying at this point. If the boss enrage at 1% then tell your warrior to drop his tanking stance when offtanking. Or tell your healer to spam cure II/adlo less so the bard can sing less
    Spoken like someone who has never been through progression.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hallena View Post
    No it isn't when the group dps is over 2500. That's slightly more than 1%
    While it's small, at its inception the DPS checks were pretty dang tight for certain things. T12, pushing 4 Bennu was pretty close first week or two (ironically SMN was the best at it then due to Blackfires having vuln up rather than HP down) and 40 DPS could be a Bennu for sure. The difference between 4 Bennu and 5 Bennu, man, not only was it a massive heal/tank survivability boost, but having to burn down another Bennu was a serious DPS sink, meaning you had to spend more time and more CDs in Bennu phase. T13, it could be an extra Flatten in P1, or the difference between seeing enrage or not seeing it in T13.

    I agree that 30-40 DPS isn't a big deal in a vacuum, but when it lets you do or skip things you couldn't normally do, that was where it let you shine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleigh View Post
    While it's small, at its inception the DPS checks were pretty dang tight for certain things. T12, pushing 4 Bennu was pretty close first week or two (ironically SMN was the best at it then due to Blackfires having vuln up rather than HP down) and 40 DPS could be a Bennu for sure. The difference between 4 Bennu and 5 Bennu, man, not only was it a massive heal/tank survivability boost, but having to burn down another Bennu was a serious DPS sink, meaning you had to spend more time and more CDs in Bennu phase. T13, it could be an extra Flatten in P1, or the difference between seeing enrage or not seeing it in T13.

    I agree that 30-40 DPS isn't a big deal in a vacuum, but when it lets you do or skip things you couldn't normally do, that was where it let you shine.
    If 30 dps was such a big deal back then, it goes to show how fucked BLM is because the difference between smn and blm when movement is involved is more than 30

    Spoken like someone who has never been through progression.
    It's not like i have my bis extreme, ravana extreme, t1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-11-12-13 kills before echo or anything.
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    Last edited by hallena; 06-29-2015 at 04:18 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hallena View Post
    It's not like i have my bis extreme, ravana extreme, t1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-11-12-13 kills before echo or anything.
    Clearing content with the highest gear available for said patch doesn't really count. You shouldn't need the extra DPS then.


    Quote Originally Posted by Judge_Xero View Post
    Any chance there are areas of the battlefield where BLM can safely turret from with little movement?

    Which fights ? after learning most fights you can generally minimize movement as much as possible, yep. Unless you get really unlucky and get targeted by every mechanic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneWingedSora View Post
    Clearing content with the highest gear available for said patch doesn't really count. .
    Why are you moving the goal post so freaking hard and assuming things you know nothing about?
    If i was assuming stupid things like you do i would be claiming left and right you only cleared coil with echo because you hide your achievements.
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    Last edited by hallena; 06-29-2015 at 08:01 AM.