How is BLM in new expansion?

[Garotte14]

I did look at your achievements before making my post. The only content you've done in heavensward is dungeons and hunts. Nothing that is mechanic heavy.
If alexander savage is anything like bismarck extreme, Nobody will ever bring a blm over smn due to lower single target damage when movement/mechanic is involved. lower aoe, less utility and less mobility.

The only part of your comment that really gets to me is the, "Nobody will ever bring a blm over a smn" part. Your static, maybe. I'm only saying I look at all of this as a challenge and I will accept that challenge. Regardless of what the fight is, there will be a way for me to do outstanding dps, whether you believe that or not. I have plenty faith in my abilities to make the best of any bad situation. My static currently knows what I can do and they are not pushing me to go SMN or kicking me out of the group for a SMN. Sure there will be the really great (And I mean REALLY great) summoners who will be able to out dps me in any fight, but I would still be willing to bet the farm that I'll still out dps the majority of SMNs in any raid. And we don't even know what Alexander is going to look like yet as far as mechanics, so I'm not sure why you're so hell bent on hating BLM

[Aikaal]

The only part of your comment that really gets to me is the, "Nobody will ever bring a blm over a smn" part.

Any casual raid group won't give a damn about what you play. "Play what you prefer." In a serious hardcore group, they pick the best job. Let's see what we have right now.

TANKS:
Paladin
Warrior
Warrior has Storm Path and outdps Bards, it's silly to not get one. Paladin is the only job with Strength debuff. No matter how you see Dark knight with Int debuff, Monk can do it.

HEALERS:
White Mage
Astrologian
Not because Scholar is bad. White mage is really OP right now and can pull 900 dps on a dummy. They heal stronger than SCH and AST buffs are just too good.

DPS:
Monk
Dragoon/Ninja
Bard
Summoner
Monk has Int Debuff. I don't know what is stronger between Battle Litany or Trick Attack. Bard still provide superior support than Machinist. Summoner is the best choice for caster.

[Malevicton]

Cool. Now compare yourself to a good summoner.
Who also has more aoe, mobility and utility. Which lead to what the whole complaining is about. There is no reason to bring a blm because smn is better at everything. except dummy dps testing

Burst dps checks (like t5 conflags), small hp adds. There's no raid right now for us to compare ourselves in, so it's bit early to say that there's no environment where blm thrives.

[Aikaal]

Burst dps checks (like t5 conflags), small hp adds. There's no raid right now for us to compare ourselves in, so it's bit early to say that there's no environment where blm thrives.

Conflag in T5, bane dots from Twintania + Fester. Lol, you picked the wrong example. Do you want to know what I think of small hp adds in Ravana Ex? Cast cancel at 0.3 sec left cause the add is dead. You can bane dots on those adds.

You can easily compare SMN and BLM with Bismark X and Ravana X and I assume you haven't done them yet?

[Malevicton]

Conflag in T5, bane dots from Twintania + Fester. Lol, you picked the wrong example. Do you want to know what I think of small hp adds in Ravana Ex? Cast cancel at 0.3 sec left cause the add is dead. You can bane dots on those adds.

You can easily compare SMN and BLM with Bismark X and Ravana X and I assume you haven't done them yet?

If your cast gets interrupted, that's your fault, not blm being underbalanced. Baning dots on those adds is a waste of aetherflow, they'll die within 2 tics. Bane+fester on conflag doesn't match blm burst; anything that dies before dots can get significant duration blm will win out for that phase.

I've cleared both extremes, have you? And yeah, you can compare them but it's an incomplete picture. Looking backwards, would it have been reasonable to compare classes only with the 3 ex primals and ignore t1-5?

E: I'm not saying they're definitely balanced, just that we don't have enough information to say with certainty that we're not balanced. It's only 1 more week til alexander and then we'll have some perspective. To quote the greatest general advice from Douglass Adams: "Don't panic"

[OneWingedSora]

Conflag in T5, bane dots from Twintania + Fester. Lol, you picked the wrong example. Do you want to know what I think of small hp adds in Ravana Ex? Cast cancel at 0.3 sec left cause the add is dead. You can bane dots on those adds.

You can easily compare SMN and BLM with Bismark X and Ravana X and I assume you haven't done them yet?

I mean, you could just stay on the boss and the moon ganas. 3 DPS are more than enough for the other adds.

Also baning Dots on the conflag is a waste of DPS since the DoTs will likely not tick more than once unless your groups DPS is trash.

[Aikaal]

I mean, you could just stay on the boss and the moon ganas. 3 DPS are more than enough for the other adds.

Also baning Dots on the conflag is a waste of DPS since the DoTs will likely not tick more than once unless your groups DPS is trash.

It is completely stupid and selflessly keep your DPS high and ignore mechanics that can give you vulnerability stacks. It shoudl never be my fault to lose DPS because I am doing mechanics properly. When adds spawn, you kill them asap and the only time I'll force a spell on the boxx is B4 because I can't afford to lose it.

@Zappa, you can look my Lodestone, I got my 190 weapon unlike you and unlike you I can't see your achievements. We have all the information we need to know at this point BLM is not viable. Have you cleared Savage turns in 110 gear? Enjoy T8. BLM was there only because of SMN issue, you still had to run to your assigned towers. Savage Alexander won't give us turret dps.

Also, right now SMN and BLM looks equal on ACT. I guess not a lot of people are aware that ACT right now does not calculated Spell Speed on DoTs? They are simulated and those dots aren't calculated with spell speed so the numbers of all DPS are lower than they are in reality. Except BLM which should be about the same because Thunder is a filler move.

[Malevicton]

It is completely stupid and selflessly keep your DPS high and ignore mechanics that can give you vulnerability stacks. It shoudl never be my fault to lose DPS because I am doing mechanics properly. When adds spawn, you kill them asap and the only time I'll force a spell on the boxx is B4 because I can't afford to lose it.

@Zappa, you can look my Lodestone, I got my 190 weapon unlike you and unlike you I can't see your achievements. We have all the information we need to know at this point BLM is not viable. Have you cleared Savage turns in 110 gear? Enjoy T8. BLM was there only because of SMN issue, you still had to run to your assigned towers. Savage Alexander won't give us turret dps.

Also, right now SMN and BLM looks equal on ACT. I guess not a lot of people are aware that ACT right now does not calculated Spell Speed on DoTs? They are simulated and those dots aren't calculated with spell speed so the numbers of all DPS are lower than they are in reality. Except BLM which should be about the same because Thunder is a filler move.

...If you miss then you weren't doing the mechanics "properly". It may feel selfish to you to hit the boss instead, but if you honestly find that your casts can't hit then your options are 1) damage the boss or moon gana or 2) damage nothing. So gj on doing 0 damage just to feel more involved in a mechanic that you aren't actually contributing to accomplishing.

[Sleigh]

It is completely stupid and selflessly keep your DPS high and ignore mechanics that can give you vulnerability stacks. It shoudl never be my fault to lose DPS because I am doing mechanics properly. When adds spawn, you kill them asap and the only time I'll force a spell on the boxx is B4 because I can't afford to lose it.

In this particular case I gotta agree with the others. Damage distribution, who attacks what when where and why, has always been really important for BLM, a class who's largely DoT free and can manipulate how long things live easier than others to maximize AoE/DoTs. In a static I always try to coordinate what I'm attacking with the others, and if it's too hard to guarantee my cast (which it can be in Ravana on small adds) I will either take myself off them, take some melee off them, or make sure I'm the only one doing it. I think in Ravana the latter is appropriate.

With a 3s cast and the price of losing a cast in general, this coordination is gonna be huge going forward. Just food for thought. I don't think failing an add or two in Ravana is too risky survival wise to necessitate risking Enochian.

[OneWingedSora]

It is completely stupid and selflessly keep your DPS high and ignore mechanics that can give you vulnerability stacks. It shoudl never be my fault to lose DPS because I am doing mechanics properly. When adds spawn, you kill them asap and the only time I'll force a spell on the boxx is B4 because I can't afford to lose it.

Well, you shouldn't be getting stacks even if you were staying at the boss the entire time. Hell, a bard can easily solo those blue butterflies.