How is BLM in new expansion?

[Aikaal]

Black Mage is has flat out 20% more single target potency than Summoner which more than compensate for the damge loss in movement.

Are you God damn blind? Summoner rivals BLack Mage on a dummy parse single target. Since when BLM do 20% more single target DPS. But let me tell you something about the reality of fights. While you have to move as a summoner, the spells you can't use are Miasma I, Bio II, Ruin 1 (lol), Ruin 3, Shadowflare. Everything else can be use.

What Blackmage CAN cast while they have to move. Scathe, 100 potency.

The only reason SMN was held back in FCoB is because of their mana issues. Otherwise BLM and SMN would have been equal.


Do you want the list of reasons why you shouldn't bring a BLM? Here it is;

BLM and SMN single target DPS is alike but BLM lost a lot more from mechanics and mobility than SMN
SMN do 50% more AoE than BLM
BLM can't use they utility spells or they might lose their AF stacks because SE thought it was smart to force 2 different kind of Grease Lightning type mechanics on a caster.
They nerfed Manawall so you can't escape mechanics to keep DPS

To make it worst, Casters are suppose to be high AoE DPS. They've insanely buffed SMN and they thought it was smart to nerf BLM AoE. There is not a single reason to bring a Black Mage in progression. While Bards have their own issues, they provide great raid utility. They will keep their spot. Some Black Mages will force their group to keep them and be a nuisance more than anything else but smart groups will ask BLMs to roll SMN or they'll find somebody else.

All the Summoners I see post on this thread are ignoring the First and Second Coil facts. They were better because mana was not an issue. They were behind in T8 only because of mana issues and in FCoB they had this problem on all fights. Guess what, you don't have mana issues anymore. BLM had issues on their own and SE decided to worsen it. I don't know why Summoners think this way because you are clearly not seeing the truth if you think BLM was the best caster in the entire 2.0 They gave you awesome new abilities. They fixed your issues and your job is complete. What did we get in 3.0? We replaced F1 with F4. It's the same old boring thing. I am really unhappy with what I got and this is why I'll raid as Summoner until they rework my job. I don't want potency increase from my abilities. I want something to counter my weakness.

[Drakolos]

The DPS of BLM and SMN at singel target can be equal. The biggest difference between them is that the BLM need full experience and coordination of the fight where the SMN can have the same amount of DPS on his 1st try.

[ToasterMan]

Well I tried doing Bismark EX as a black mage yesterday and there's no way I'm going to be able to progress in Alexander if its anything like Bismark like this. Am I going to have to abandon Black mage and roll a new job? I don't want to have to play Summoner since I hate pet mechanics and I'm not very good at summoner at all. On top of that I would have to level it to 60 and that's gonna take me awhile. What should I do?

[Zeyphr_Darkshadow]

Well I tried doing Bismark EX as a black mage yesterday and there's no way I'm going to be able to progress in Alexander if its anything like Bismark like this. Am I going to have to abandon Black mage and roll a new job? I don't want to have to play Summoner since I hate pet mechanics and I'm not very good at summoner at all. On top of that I would have to level it to 60 and that's gonna take me awhile. What should I do?

I'm in the same situation. I've mained BLM since 1.0, and loved it all the way. Now i have time limits making me NOT MOVE EVEN MORE, and mechanics that MAKE ME MOVE EVEN MORE. It's so stupid that every single move in a fight like Bismarck Ex, interrupts, to then finally start another cast, to be bombarded with AOE's i need to dodge, to then realise my enochian has ran out and i can't do shit anymore. SO annoying.