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  1. #61
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    Drakolos's Avatar
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    Lord Drakolos
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 60
    I played both classes at a very top level and I can say at 2.5 at nearly every encounter the SMN had the upper hand over the BLM. The SMN was always better if there are more than 2 targets, and that's nearly in every fight. The DPS of a SMN at Ramuh, Ifrit, Levi or King Mog due to the many targets was just incredible. Yes, there were some mana issues but not really a big deal. I saw some SMN spamming Ruin II even if they stay still and complaining about mana issues then...I have the BLM at 60 and I loves the new mechanics behind the new skills but it's just not FF14 friendly. The punishment for moving is now to huge as it was already. After many runs at fraktal I'm getting used to it at the boss fights. But it can't be that you need perfect experience of the fight to play your class proper. At the moment I can't see any reason to play a BLM over the SMN at endgame content where movement is vital. I'm maining BLM since 2.0 and its just not enjoyable anymore.
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  2. #62
    Player Akiza's Avatar
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    Rhel Eryut
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    SE made the Black Mage more technicall like Summoner and now all Black Mages are crying because they don't have a simple rotation and high dps.
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  3. #63
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    AlternativeOne's Avatar
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    Character
    Haji Noirterel
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 60
    Our new skill suck ass. Ley line is hands down the dumbest Idea in this game. Fire 4 is our low mp spell under astral so you basically spam it 2 times then refresh your astral fire, spam 2 more times then cast blizzard 3, blizzard 4, fire 3 then repeat till you cant. With the way these fights are. you gonna be running around useless most of the time. Aoe is weak cause these mobs have hella hp. It better to just switch target and use fire4. I hate it.
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  4. #64
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    Twilite's Avatar
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    Miranda Madison
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    Twintania
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    SE made the Black Mage more technicall like Summoner and now all Black Mages are crying because they don't have a simple rotation and high dps.
    SMN became better at the cost of another job(the exact same way they did in FFXI.). Oh and it's not even about high DPS anymore. BLM is a burst damage class..I've said this shit over and over again here. Oh and please don't start trolling BLMs. I don't know if SMNs were trolled or not, but remember, your buff came at a cost.

    Anyhow, after sleeping on it, I decided against quitting the job and gonna tough it out.
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  5. #65
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    Malevicton's Avatar
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    Zappa Dattic
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    tbh I think we all just need practice. Was doing bismarck ex and maintaining near-100% enochian uptime by the second attempt. Fractal Continuum is pretty easy to turret on every boss. Neverreap can be a bit tricky, but if you don't have to carry all the mechanics then you can keep good uptime as well. I havent tried ravana ex, which admittedly is the one I think we'll be worst in, but people saying all the fights are designed to be impossible to maintain enochian in are just straight up wrong. We're weak in some fights and great in others, but even the bad fights we can do passably well.

    I'd still like if they actually balanced casters instead of the eternal flip flop, but the sky isn't falling.
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    When in doubt, assume sarcasm

  6. #66
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    Aikaal's Avatar
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    Aikaal Leyma
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX View Post
    SMN was never preffered over BLM. In first coil, they ran out of mana much sooner than any other MP using class, forcing either massive DPS loss or a BRD to play manasong before the other classes could take full advantage of the MP regen. Additionally, if movement was required and their DoTs fell off, their DPS suffered much more than a BLM's would because DoTs were their primary form of damage. There was a long stretch where SMN simply were not allowed into any competitive content. They also didn't add much more utility than a SCH already added via Virus/E4E. Their DPS was never higher than BLM's either. I don't know which game you've been playing.

    As far as "more complex because I have to watch timers now"

    Seriously? Every other DPS class in the game has had to live or die by their ability to keep track of their timers. BLM can learn to live with it.
    Another person that doesn't know what the 3.0 BLM is.


    Classic situation >> *casts F4* get focused by a mechanic, move away. Cast second F4, cast F1. Then again, how did you felt when Melusine would move around to Fireball during your Heavy Thrust and you missed your Heavy Thrust bonus as Dragoon before they fixed it? That didn't kill you but that GCD you lost killed your DPS and Dragoon fell behind the Monk getting ignored.

    SMN was much preferred in SCoB. First Coil they were appreciated about equally but in SCoB it was definitely the SMN.

    I'll work around with movement but it's a bigger dps lost never the least compared to FCoB.
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  7. #67
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    MistyMew's Avatar
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    Misty Mew
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    I really dislike blm at 58...cant really judge it for 60 yet, it feel cumbersome, awkward and overall bad in design now.
    I don't mind managing cd and stuff but the design of the cd right now is quite backwards and clunky and not well thought out at all.

    I do hope it vastly improves by 60...if not , se you gotta fix it plz
    (don't be like WOW developers)
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  8. #68
    Player
    Aikaal's Avatar
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    Character
    Aikaal Leyma
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Right now in iLevel 157 with an iLevel 180 weapon on a dummy *best case scenario* My opener I bursted up to 1.8k DPS but it was more steady at 1.5k. Damage is good but movement will kill it lol
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  9. #69
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    hallena's Avatar
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    Character
    Fara Venator
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Aikaal View Post
    Right now in iLevel 157 with an iLevel 180 weapon on a dummy *best case scenario* My opener I bursted up to 1.8k DPS but it was more steady at 1.5k. Damage is good but movement will kill it lol
    Well this is the complain. BLM's dps is good when you can turret, As soon as movement/mechanic is involved, your dps goes to shit
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  10. #70
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    Mercutial's Avatar
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    Character
    Mercutial Zenos
    World
    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quick side question: I've been taking my time with the side quests and main quests to level up to 60 naturally since static won't need me at full force for another week. Where are all the higher Ilevel weapons dropping or how are they obtained?
    I'm currently at level 55 and still rocking the Dreadwyrm Staff.
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    Last edited by Mercutial; 06-25-2015 at 02:20 AM.

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