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  1. #1
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    Fatshine's Avatar
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    Magnus Valerius
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    I'm loving BLM for what it can do with single target spells, but with its AoE spells? I'm... not so sure about it now. Fire II only has a potency of 100 and Flare is only 260 (and less if there's more than one mob). Fire IV has the same potency as Fire III (280), but costs less MP to cast than Fire (which still needs to be cast every two Fire IV's to refresh Astral. Three if Ley Lines are up).

    Hrm.
    Flare's potency is 468 on the first hit, above 200 on the last, and Fire II is 180 under Astral Fire III, so Black mages still hit really hard. When you read the potency of your spells, remember that is base and not under Fire/Ice stance. Your damage is fine. Fire I and Blizzard I even got a buff. Flare got a nerf yes (and much needed because it was ridiculous in ARR), but is still one of the strongest AOE attacks in the game.
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    Last edited by Fatshine; 06-24-2015 at 02:34 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatshine View Post
    Flare got a nerf yes (and much needed because it was ridiculous in ARR)
    ? If anything they took BLM's aoe and gave it to summoner. Summoner's aoe dps is insane right now.
    At the risk of sounding judgemental. People playing summoners in this expansions are the last persons who can say a nerf to someone is "much needed"
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    Quote Originally Posted by hallena View Post
    ? If anything they took BLM's aoe and gave it to summoner. Summoner's aoe dps is insane right now.
    At the risk of sounding judgemental. People playing summoners in this expansions are the last persons who can say a nerf to someone is "much needed"
    So you are mad that instead of being king of AOE, you are now a prince of AOE? Seems like you ignored everything else I posted. As a Summoner, yes I will say what needed a nerf and what didn't because I've played both casters at the highest level, and put a lot of time into both jobs. There is so much crying right now it's ridiculous. Once everyone is adequately geared and has more time, then we will see the numbers/stat weights/issues/etc. SE will buff/nerf something if needed and they do a good job at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhex View Post
    Why would you pay for a game, to pay an RMT, to pay other players to play the game for you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatshine View Post
    Snip.
    No i am "mad" because you are claiming BLM got a well deserved nerf when you are most likely fine with smn having Arr's BLM tier aoe aswell as top tier single target, mobility and utility.
    I don't mind when developer nerf things that are overpowered. Taking something from someone, giving it to another one and calling it balance is not fine
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    Last edited by hallena; 06-24-2015 at 05:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hallena View Post
    No i am "mad" because you are claiming BLM got a well deserved nerf when you are most likely fine with smn having Arr's BLM tier aoe aswell as top tier single target, mobility and utility.
    A true statement is true regardless of who says it. Him being a smn is irrelevant.

    If you think it's an untrue statement, then argue for that position, but right now you're just attacking him personally.
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    When in doubt, assume sarcasm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malevicton View Post
    A true statement is true regardless of who says it. Him being a smn is irrelevant.

    If you think it's an untrue statement, then argue for that position, but right now you're just attacking him personally.
    But it is a true statement. BLM aoe dps was overpowered. So overpowered they gave it to summoner instead. So incredibly overpowered its balanced now that summoner can do it.
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    Last edited by hallena; 06-24-2015 at 05:31 AM.

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    This is not balanced. You don't simply give so much AoE to another job it beats the previous AoE king by 50% if well played. It's a failure to properly balance jobs. Single target wise, SMN and BLM seems to be equal on a dummy. Not in AoE.
    Your sarcasm-o-meter is broken
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