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  1. #1
    Player
    Garotte14's Avatar
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    Alayna Lazriel
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Kailii View Post
    My problem is more with enjoyment and that's separate from dps numbers. When Blm works, it works well. I find fitting in Fire 1s to be annoying, maintenance buffs are never fun.
    I can understand that completely. I actually find the fun in figuring out how to perfect this version of BLM. Everytime I run any fight again, I try new things, learn tricks, utilize my other tools in different ways and it's developed me being able to out dps most melee with similar gear. Not saying these are top-tier melee, but still. I find that fun. I also take a lot of pride and if my static asked me to switch to SMN, I would. They won't ask thogh because they trust I can do the job just the same on BLM and it's the job I prefer.
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    Prospero Emerys
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 50

    Ideas

    Until we see the raid, no one really knows how punished BLM is going to be for movement. That being said, if Ravana and Bismark (or a fair amount of the 60 dungeon bosses) are any indication, it's gonna hurt. Our single target is fine if we can turret, our AOE is fine, if a little boring now with weaker flare and the inability to flare from a mana pots anymore.

    I think there's a a few fairly simple changes that would make it really enjoyable for most people again, without making BLM broken.

    1) Extend AF/UI to 12s (15 if they were feeling generous). Yes, monk's GL is 10s, but they don't cast, meaning their refresh on their stacks happens at the beginning of their GCD, ours at the end. If you have to dodge an AOE, you basically have to sub out a fire IV for a fire 1 to maintain stacks most of the time. An extra 2 seconds on it would be -probably- enough to still keep our rotation on track. Not an increase in damage outright and doesn't really affect any lower level aspects either.
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    Prospero Emerys
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    Gilgamesh
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    2) Extend the length of time we hold can procs like freecure where it lasts 15s instead of 12s. Then thunderclouds in fire don't die as often and firestarters for reversion back to AF3. A proc could be held longer for emergencies and movement and subbed for a spell we're doing anyway more often (eg thundercloud for thunder firestarter for fire 1/3)

    3) This one is really just an idea I like, honestly not necessary, but I'd like to see the IV spells be AOE that do 1/3 potency to the surrounding enemies. That puts fire IV on the additional mobs under AF 3 at 168 potency, which is a little weaker than fire 2 at 180, but you'd hit one mob hard. Cycle targets so you don't burn one down too fast. Fire 2 to refresh AF stacks and enochian is actually involved in our AOE rotation instead of the way it is now where it's basically just a 5% buff and you debate whether the bliz IV cast to extend it is really worth the spell.

    I really like new BLM, it just needs a little fine-tuning.
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    Scholar-'s Avatar
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    Character
    Book Mage
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by OneWingedSora View Post
    Which is way it was disappointing to hear this from you. BLM has always been about learning the fight to maximize DPS. Sure, it's more punishing now, but it's also much more rewarding when you do it right. We don't even know how Alex SM will be like. For all we know, maybe you will have half the turns like T7/T8/T10/12. Let's wait until actual content that matters is out before we complain.

    I tried doing T5/T11/T13 and my Enochian was up pretty much the entire fight save for the times when the boss goes offscreen. It just needs more practice.
    Y u lying for? Those duties are synced to lvl 50 ...... Meaning enochian is not available.

    I rally don't lyk liars
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    Philia Felice
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    Gilgamesh
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Scholar- View Post
    Y u lying for? Those duties are synced to lvl 50 ...... Meaning enochian is not available.

    I rally don't lyk liars
    You can skip the sync by going in with 7 people.

    Granted, it would be a hyper fast, low mechanic experience, but you can do it.
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    Character
    Miranda Madison
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    Twintania
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    I miss thunder because it added to the whole mobile friendly thing when it procs. 2k(crit) Thunder III's are always welcome.
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    Aikaal Leyma
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Increasing astral fire by 2 or 3 secs would help blm out definitelt
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    Judge_Xero's Avatar
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    Character
    Divine Gate
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 60
    I'm main SMN so I leveled it first, but I also really like BLM (only lvl 51 atm so I haven't been able to play around with the class much)

    As part of the rotation and movement wise I'm curious if Transpose -> Thunder 3 -> B4 -> F3 would buy enough time for MP regen (Umbral I)

    I say movement wise, because if you are in a bind/danger of losing Enochian then how punishing would it be to Transpose B4 -> Thunder 3
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    Last edited by Judge_Xero; 06-29-2015 at 11:49 PM.
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    Sindri_Myr's Avatar
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    Sindri Myr
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 60
    I rarely lose Enochian to binding effects.
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Karis Angara
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 80
    I saw a Reddit thread (can't find it at the moment) that said that using Thunder at all is a DPS loss now. He'd just Sharpcast into a F3 to keep Astral up then keep going with another three F4s before switching to Umbral and so forth, he seemed to level out around 1100 sustained. I'm not a BLM myself though, I'm just hugely interested in the intricacies of the jobs in this game.
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