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    Quote Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX View Post
    The reason I'm not understanding your question is because you shouldn't be having to use more than one oGCD between casts when you're not setting up for Wildfire burst.
    That essentially answers my question--the information in the OP was confusing for me because clipping is something you want to avoid at all costs on DPS, but the opener suggests double-buffing, and I wasn't sure if that was correct (since that part doesn't seem to have been touched since the GB changes--it was written before them). Whether or not the clipping is more harm than good for Wildfire burst probably requires a lot of testing to normalize the effects of criticals over time, but for general use, we should still avoid clipping. That's what I was trying to figure out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alahra View Post
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    I don't have any numbers to back it up, but I am VERY certain that clipping your casts in order to put up all available buffs before you use Wildfire is a DPS increase due to Wildfire increasing all damage by a further 25% after already applying all damage increases from buffs. Losing 1 or 2 140 potency casts prior to Wildfire is likely more than made up for by the 25% increase you get from Wildfire on the ~10 abilities you get in with all those buffs applied during Wildfire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX View Post
    I don't have any numbers to back it up, but I am VERY certain that clipping your casts in order to put up all available buffs before you use Wildfire is a DPS increase due to Wildfire increasing all damage by a further 25% after already applying all damage increases from buffs. Losing 1 or 2 140 potency casts prior to Wildfire is likely more than made up for by the 25% increase you get from Wildfire on the ~10 abilities you get in with all those buffs applied during Wildfire.
    I'm largely curious because I'm a NIN main and Mudra GCD-clipping causes oddities for the class (like Fuma being as effective as Raiton in many situations, SS being absolutely horrible, etc). Before NIN I never would have thought GCD-clipping could have such an impact. I don't doubt that Wildfire puts out a lot of burst when you clip GCDs leading up to it, but I'm hopeful we'll see more testing. Sometimes math is deceptive so I like having numbers as a foundation.
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