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  1. #481
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    Themis's Avatar
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    Temisu Namisu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivez View Post
    auto attack nearly hits 1 for one on skills and is 100 potency, we lose it.
    testing it out the barrel seems to do nothing to turrets so can ignore them.
    This is not true. AA is not 100 potency in itself. AA is a ratio of a 100 potency attack over 3 seconds. The i190 weapon has a delay of 2.64s meaning that the potency of the AA it deals is relative to that. In this case, the potency of an AA from this gun is 88 potency (2.64/3.00 * 100 (to convert from a %)).

    You'd want to adjust your numbers in the rest of the post to account for that change.

    It also makes sense that the turret damage does not increase under GB because it's attached to your gun, not the turret.
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  2. #482
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    Rivez Skydancer
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    "This is not true. AA is not 100 potency in itself. AA is a ratio of a 100 potency attack over 3 seconds. The i190 weapon has a delay of 2.64s meaning that the potency of the AA it deals is relative to that. In this case, the potency of an AA from this gun is 88 potency (2.64/3.00 * 100 (to convert from a %)). "


    Ah I see and I also forgot to add the 30% buff to the 180 potency skill you can use.

    But even with that it isnt doing any extra damage as such is it?

    the changes would be:

    potencies with auto attack would be 228,268,288

    potencies with no auto attack and 30% barrel 182,234,260

    for being able to use a 234 potency move every 20 seconds you sacrifice about 8 shots of 28-48 potency.

    with that into account its like it doesn't actually do much of anything. You stay about the same only having casting timers now.
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  3. #483
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    Ryaz Darksbane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivez View Post
    the changes would be:

    potencies with auto attack would be 228,268,288

    potencies with no auto attack and 30% barrel 182,234,260

    for being able to use a 234 potency move every 20 seconds you sacrifice about 8 shots of 28-48 potency.

    with that into account its like it doesn't actually do much of anything. You stay about the same only having casting timers now.
    Don't forget to add Increased Action Damage to all your abilities. That doesn't affect auto-attacks. The actual damage increase with GB on is 56%, not 30%.
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  4. #484
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    Zenna Rose
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    So with the GB change/fix it's for sure GB only when WF/RF are up correct?
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  5. #485
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    Ephier Samoht
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasmiya View Post
    So with the GB change/fix it's for sure GB only when WF/RF are up correct?
    Lol no. Full time gauss barrel. REAL STRONG.
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  6. #486
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    "Don't forget to add Increased Action Damage to all your abilities. That doesn't affect auto-attacks. The actual damage increase with GB on is 56%, not 30%"

    how does the percentage work? are all the damage percentages added up on the end or is it 30% of the damage+trait?

    if its the first it wont make any difference to to putting the barrel on or off in calculations. If its the second the 30% will be slightly higher than 30%
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  7. #487
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    Kaelan Loire
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    I think people are over estimating the potency of auto attacks. Gauss barrel on has always out parsed gauss barrel off on all my tests. The 20%/30% damage increase is almost like the kiss of wasp/venom the ninja gets. Throw it on and it will increase your dps. It doesn't add 30% extra dps but it does do more than not having it on. I can see alternating it if you have to move around a lot.. Based on what I have seen, taking it off is a dps decrease, not taking movement into account of course.
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  8. #488
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    Odowla Wetae
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivez View Post
    "Don't forget to add Increased Action Damage to all your abilities. That doesn't affect auto-attacks. The actual damage increase with GB on is 56%, not 30%"

    how does the percentage work? are all the damage percentages added up on the end or is it 30% of the damage+trait?

    if its the first it wont make any difference to to putting the barrel on or off in calculations. If its the second the 30% will be slightly higher than 30%
    multiplicative, just like every other cooldown

    was doing ~800 dps full time gauss on all 4 alex fights. The GB change is nice.

    Ilevel i155 BTW
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  9. #489
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odowla View Post
    multiplicative, just like every other cooldown

    was doing ~800 dps full time gauss on all 4 alex fights. The GB change is nice.

    Ilevel i155 BTW
    whoa, 800 dps at i155? I do about 860 at i171... I thought the ilvl requirement for alex was 170?
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  10. #490
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    Quote Originally Posted by airshowboat View Post
    whoa, 800 dps at i155? I do about 860 at i171... I thought the ilvl requirement for alex was 170?
    ofc, i alarm clocked it with my raid so i had to cheese the ilevel to get in, meaning my actual gear was i155 since i just finished levelling it last night, lol
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