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  1. #311
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    Massterchef's Avatar
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    Zetsu Tei
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    Leviathan
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    Alchemist Lv 55
    Quote Originally Posted by Ephier View Post
    -Dexterity Potion
    -Hawk's Eye
    Hot Shot
    -Quick Reload
    -Blood for Blood
    -Hypercharge
    Lead Shot
    You do realize quick reloading before leadshot is a waste of ammo right?
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  2. #312
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    Ephier Samoht
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    Ultros
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    Machinist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Massterchef View Post
    You do realize quick reloading before leadshot is a waste of ammo right?
    Whups the typo.
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  3. #313
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ephier View Post
    Whups the typo.
    I'm not sure about the OPs opening rotation but quick reload before hotshot or leadshot is ammo wasted on a noncombo skill. It should be used after both leadshot and hotshot in every rotation.
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  4. #314
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    Ephier Samoht
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    Ultros
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    Quote Originally Posted by Massterchef View Post
    I'm not sure about the OPs opening rotation but quick reload before hotshot or leadshot is ammo wasted on a noncombo skill. It should be used after both leadshot and hotshot in every rotation.
    I know. I fixed it. '-' My apologies for not proof reading. In the current opener it is used to refresh the 5 ammo stacks you will start the fight with. You will have 5 more ammo to use after the opener and quick reload will be available shortly before you use up the 5 ammo you receive from the mid fight reload, but you won't be able to use it immediately because you need to refresh hot shot and lead shot. If that makes sense.
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    Last edited by Ephier; 07-01-2015 at 04:29 AM.

  5. #315
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    Flo Fyloord
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    Famfrit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Massterchef View Post
    Only for the opening. Putting it back on is a loss and I've tried going full GB but for the most part it seems like a loss unless you have good crit/proc RNG.
    What's your average ilvl, and i assume you were using 180 weapon. I haven't been too motivated with tomestone gear so my ilvl average i still around 169
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  6. #316
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    Zetsu Tei
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ephier View Post
    I know. I fixed it. '-' My apologies for not proof reading. In the current opener it is used to refresh the 5 ammo stacks you will start the fight with. You will have 5 more ammo to use after the opener and quick reload will be available shortly before you use up the 5 ammo you receive from the mid fight reload, but you won't be able to use it immediately because you need to refresh hot shot and lead shot. If that makes sense.
    Oh I see what you mean

    edit: I'll have to try that out and see how it affects my #s
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    Last edited by Massterchef; 07-01-2015 at 04:38 AM.

  7. #317
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    Zetsu Tei
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    What's your average ilvl, and i assume you were using 180 weapon. I haven't been too motivated with tomestone gear so my ilvl average i still around 169
    i176 w/ i190 wep
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    Last edited by Massterchef; 07-01-2015 at 05:36 AM.

  8. #318
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    Drowned Wednesday
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    Machinist Lv 60
    Really disappointed in the Rapid Fire + Gauss Barrel fix, but it was expected. I've updated the simulator to include this change as well as potions and crit % assuming the crit formula is still roughly 1.5x potency, and from comparing different openers with this cast time change, there is a new one that is theoretically the highest potency now that is in the guide.
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  9. #319
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    Zenna Rose
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    Diabolos
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Massterchef View Post
    Only for the opening. Putting it back on is a loss and I've tried going full GB but for the most part it seems like a loss unless you have good crit/proc RNG.
    Interesting and sad at the same time.
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  10. #320
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    Excel Kobayashi
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Cascadi View Post
    Really disappointed in the Rapid Fire + Gauss Barrel fix, but it was expected. I've updated the simulator to include this change as well as potions and crit % assuming the crit formula is still roughly 1.5x potency, and from comparing different openers with this cast time change, there is a new one that is theoretically the highest potency now that is in the guide.
    Going over the opening rotation on the guide, is there a reason Gauss Barrel isn't used before the buffs? I'm probably wrong and there's a super math reason behind it, but it just seems like a waste of buff time putting up gauss right after you pop the buffs.
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    Last edited by arctic; 07-01-2015 at 06:27 AM.
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