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  1. #291
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    Shika Naito
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ephier View Post
    He is saying thats all they are going to fix for now, and then going to see what players say about it during Alexander.
    there is currently no reason to bring a mch to in a raid anymore over a brd and or another dps.
    like they just made our dps worst and you think people are gonna allow mch in their groups knowing that?
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  2. #292
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    Ephier Samoht
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shhikasan View Post
    there is currently no reason to bring a mch to in a raid anymore over a brd and or another dps.
    like they just made our dps worst and you think people are gonna allow mch in their groups knowing that?

    If they do not buff them along with the BRDs yes I can see this statement being true.
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  3. #293
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odowla View Post
    They have to.

    Machinist holds the same raid slot as a Bard.

    If one is /vastly/ superior to the other, the other just simply is not viable. AT ALL.

    So in order to balance MCH/BRD, they need to do comparable damage (one CAN be better than the other slightly, ofc), with comparable raid utility. They currently have both - with the problem being that their abilities post 50 are kind of just.. not good enough to warrant taking away their assets. (believe it or not, safe, mobile damage IS utility in a raid setting.)

    tl;dr buffing brd = mch buffs
    -Looks at SMN's after thunder nerf- Took them a looooooooooooong time to deal with that.
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  4. #294
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ephier View Post
    -Looks at SMN's after thunder nerf- Took them a looooooooooooong time to deal with that.
    Sure, but summoners were actually DESTROYING every other DPS in the game by a significant margin, lol. that change put them in line with everyone else ( relatively ofc)
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  5. #295
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odowla View Post
    Sure, but summoners were actually DESTROYING every other DPS in the game by a significant margin, lol. that change put them in line with everyone else ( relatively ofc)
    True. All we can do is pray. If it remains broken going to hope on the BRD bandwagon til they fix it I guess. Share the same gear anyway. '-'
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  6. #296
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shhikasan View Post
    there is currently no reason to bring a mch to in a raid anymore over a brd and or another dps.
    like they just made our dps worst and you think people are gonna allow mch in their groups knowing that?
    its already that way a number of people are basically get kicked from bismarck ex including my self one time even thou a smn was doing far less dmg then me and they did not get kicked. luckily I found a better group half hour later that day clear it went into ravana ex same day clear it that night and have ton of ravan ex clears under my belt if i didn't have those under my belt I don't think any group would of accepted me into ravana.ew
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  7. #297
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    Off topic but if any of you have played since the hotfix what are you doing about GB?
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  8. #298
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasmiya View Post
    Off topic but if any of you have played since the hotfix what are you doing about GB?
    same as bard, you can swap it on at pre-fight and during a phase skip for some burst, of course having to apply hot/lead shots without the auto attack causes more dps to be lost so...yea
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  9. #299
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrSmiley View Post
    same as bard, you can swap it on at pre-fight and during a phase skip for some burst, of course having to apply hot/lead shots without the auto attack causes more dps to be lost so...yea
    basically what I am gonna be going with. basically means blow your cds when their off cause wildfire during a fight isn't gonna be beefy anymore
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  10. #300
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    Alright thank you
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