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  1. #151
    Player
    Shhikasan's Avatar
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    Shika Naito
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    from the looks of it mch is gonna need a lot of buffs before alex if a mch is gonna see the light of the raid.

    gb should only be used for rapid fire and wildfire outside of that its a dps lost.

    the biggest problem is fuck the people like me wanting to try a new class to 60 and coming on the short end of the stick out of every class currently available by a ton.
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  2. #152
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    HairyRoger's Avatar
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    Character
    Varsing Herleifr
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by SasakiNori View Post
    Do both hits crit together or individually? (Natural crits)
    Individually, unfortunately. Feels good when you get the 300 potency crit though
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  3. #153
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    MiruWest's Avatar
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    Miru West
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by MelvinK View Post
    The shorter the fight is, the more dominant is this "opening" dps. So I'd say the DPS is sort of "inflated". I'd actually be more interested with average DPS past 6-10 min to reflect a proper raid encounter length.
    Same could be said about any job. Its the reason everyone uses 3:00 - 3:30 min to parse. A 6-10 min parse wouldn't make sense because you would go TP starved. Not to mention you want a raid parse which would mean raid buffs and DRG debuff along with TRK Atk? Not gonna happen sorry.

    I posted on reddit my parse so folks could get a idea of what we got going for us. Both was done with a GB and Only GB in the opener using the rotations talked about here. Ill said it once and Ill say it again, This class revolves around RNG. No other jobs PURE damage is from RNG. Yes we have Reload but thats once a min. Image how crappy SMN damage would be if the only thing they had to use after aether flow was Ruin I lol.
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  4. #154
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    ChespinXL's Avatar
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    Chespin Xl
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 60
    The simulator turns barrel on every 90s and wait for the next clean shot to turn it off (since you don't have reload up every 90s). I don't think this is optimal. So after the opener, toggling the barrel on every 90 seconds? or 120s? What buffs should I postpone if any?
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  5. #155
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    Cascadi's Avatar
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    Drowned Wednesday
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 60
    Ah yeah, that isn't optimal. I fixed it so it turns off when Ricochet + Gauss Round has been used, which results in higher potency.

    The barrel was only toggled on every 90 seconds, using it with Raging Strikes + Hawk's Eye + Blood for Blood + Wildfire + Rapid Fire.

    I tried running the simulation with a 30 second delay on those skills so bringing the CD of Hawk's Eye + Blood for Blood + Wildfire + Rapid Fire to 120s to line up with Hypercharge, and the results are:

    w/ 90s on Hawk's Eye + Blood for Blood + Wildfire + Rapid Fire
    The total potency was: 22739425.6275 over 270 seconds.

    w/ 120s on Hawk's Eye + Blood for Blood + Wildfire + Rapid Fire so you can line it up with Hypercharge
    The total potency was: 22235026.6965 over 270 seconds.

    So it's not worth waiting the extra 30s to line up the CDs with Hypercharge.
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  6. #156
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    Krissey's Avatar
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    Character
    Krissey Cakes
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    Mateus
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    Ninja Lv 60
    Does Machinist have access to a machine gun or a machine gun like play style?
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  7. #157
    Player
    Shhikasan's Avatar
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    Shika Naito
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dancer Lv 90
    from what I am hearing a dark knight was dpsing about 800-850 in pure dps form.IF true just might as well remove bards and mch from the game and replace them with drks since they have more hp they can survive any fuck ups and deal dmg if not more then mch and brd.

    I just want some kinda of word on the subject before alex that mch and brd be address.
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  8. #158
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    Elizabeth's Avatar
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    Character
    Minerva Cho
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 68
    Quote Originally Posted by Krissey View Post
    Does Machinist have access to a machine gun or a machine gun like play style?
    The Spread Shot skill souds like a machinegun. Try it out.
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  9. #159
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    SovereignAegis's Avatar
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    Character
    Cole Evyx
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Krissey View Post
    Does Machinist have access to a machine gun or a machine gun like play style?

    Spreadshot as well as rapidfire are closest.
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  10. #160
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    Unaki's Avatar
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    Character
    Xystel Unaki
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Krissey View Post
    Does Machinist have access to a machine gun or a machine gun like play style?
    With all the shots at its disposal it fires rounds fairly quickly. Its more like a semi-auto shotgun but its first AOE is Spread Shot which is a full auto burst in a cone.
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