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  1. #81
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    Precasting so far out is unrealistic. It's hard enough to get the raid group to wait for Ninjitsu CD to come back around after pre-casting Huton.

    {updated}Ah okay, I misunderstood... the rest of this post still stands.{updated}

    Opener should be:

    15s-ish out QR > Split > 2xbuff > Hot Shot > 2xbuff > Lead Shot > Slug Shot > ¿Clean Shot? > buff + Reload > Rotation (Reassemble Clean Shot).

    Reload Rotation is:

    Split>Slug>Clean>Split>Slug>QR>Split>Clean>Slug>¿Clean?

    Buff also implies Blank+Head Graze/Supressive Fire casting where appropriate.

    ¿? = if procured.

    I'll return to explain how Guass fits into this.

    Yuri's right on all points too... have you figured that out yet or need further explanation?

    Just need to make sure you got it so you can update the OP accordingly.
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    Last edited by Chibilidawg; 06-23-2015 at 03:32 PM.

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    Just learned that if you hit rapid fire without gauss barrel equipped, it will equip it with no cast time.
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  3. #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ephier View Post
    Just learned that if you hit rapid fire without gauss barrel equipped, it will equip it with no cast time.
    Yup! Essential technique.
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  4. #84
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    Oh I get it now, that's brilliant! A reload ready to go + 5 ammo stacks and by the time you use up those 10 your QR will have finished its CD timer! I see! Leaving my comment unedited so that if anyone thinks the same thing I did, they'll see your explanation and realize why you do that. XD

    I wanted to add one thing to the tips section then. If the pull time has to be changed/reset for some reason (we all know that one guy that realizes he has to bio in the middle of the pull countdown) then spam Quick reload to make sure you keep those 5 ammo stacks alive.
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  5. #85
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    Drowned Wednesday
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chibilidawg View Post
    Precasting both is unrealistic. It's hard enough to get the raid group to wait for Ninjitsu CD to come back around after pre-casting Huton.

    It's also a waste of your 6th ammo.

    Precasting only QR just short of its CD is much cleaner & provides greater DPS.

    Opening with Split Shot for a free early proc then following into Hot Shot > Lead Shot also makes for much smoother early buffing (very important for Reload prep).

    Opener should be:

    15s-ish out QR > Split > 2xbuff > Hot Shot > 2xbuff > Lead Shot > Slug Shot > ¿Clean Shot? > buff + Reload > Rotation (Reassemble Clean Shot).

    Reload Rotation is:

    Split>Slug>Clean>Split>Slug>QR>Split>Clean>Slug>¿Clean?

    Buff also implies Blank+Head Graze/Supressive Fire casting where appropriate.

    ¿? = if procured.

    Yuri's right on all points too...
    Again, it is not a waste of your ammo at all... like how you mentioned your starter with QR, my opener is the same thing except instead of 1 ammo, you have access to 5 at the beginning.
    This results in this in your format:
    20s-ish out QR > Split > 2x Buff > Hot Shot > 2x Buff > Lead Shot > Slug > Split > Buff > Clean > Reload > Slug > Split > Clean > Slug > Split > Clean > QR > Slug > Clean
    4x Split
    4x Slug
    4x Clean

    vs

    15s-ish out QR > Split > 2x Buff > Hot Shot > 2x Buff > Lead Shot > Slug > ¿Clean? > Buff + Reload > Split > Slug > Clean > Split > Slug > QR > Split > Clean > Slug > ¿Clean?
    4x Split
    4x Slug
    2x Clean + 2x ¿Clean?
    ¿? = if procured.
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    Last edited by Cascadi; 06-23-2015 at 09:27 AM.

  6. #86
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    Also, a question to ponder over. For aoe is it better to aoe until we're close to running out of TP, then change Bishop>Rook and put up tp song to keep aoeing? Or is it better to just keep the aoe turret up and switch to single target at that point?
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  7. #87
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kairei View Post
    Also, a question to ponder over. For aoe is it better to aoe until we're close to running out of TP, then change Bishop>Rook and put up tp song to keep aoeing? Or is it better to just keep the aoe turret up and switch to single target at that point?
    I believe it's better to keep the AoE turret up and switch to single target at that point.

    Promotion Rook: 30 TP per 3 seconds, over 30s is 300 TP, which is enough for 2 Grenado Shots. That is 240 Potency x # of targets.
    Bishop: 60 Potency per 3 seconds, over 30s is 600 Potency x # of targets.

    To add onto that, 30 TP per 3 seconds with the natural 60 TP tick results in 90 TP per 3 seconds, meaning 360 TP over 12 seconds which is 240 Potency x # of targets.
    Bishop Turret would have 240 Potency x # of targets over 12 seconds, so it doesn't really matter I guess.
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    Last edited by Cascadi; 06-23-2015 at 09:33 AM.

  8. #88
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    Thanks! <3
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  9. #89
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    Mizore Canaan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cascadi View Post
    I believe it's better to keep the AoE turret up and switch to single target at that point.

    Promotion Rook: 30 TP per 3 seconds, over 30s is 300 TP, which is enough for 2 Grenado Shots. That is 240 Potency x # of targets.
    Bishop: 60 Potency per 3 seconds, over 30s is 600 Potency x # of targets.

    To add onto that, 30 TP per 3 seconds with the natural 60 TP tick results in 90 TP per 3 seconds, meaning 360 TP over 12 seconds which is 240 Potency x # of targets.
    Bishop Turret would have 240 Potency x # of targets over 12 seconds, so it doesn't really matter I guess.
    of course since most aoe'ing is done in party content you must also consider your party members, so TP regen might net more dps if say your other dps was a DRG or a NIN, were as a BLM won't need the tp :3
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    I'm the most pro newb ever!

  10. #90
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    Thanks for the guide, OP. Gonna level this soon and very interested in it. Read and profiled the whole thread for now. Have a +1!
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