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    VitalSuit's Avatar
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    Tarra Netsky
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    Behemoth
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Daemonxel View Post
    This entire time my rotation was:
    turret down
    gb on
    Hot shot
    Lead shot
    eye for eye
    rapid fire
    raging strikes
    reload
    wildfire
    hypercharge
    split
    guass shot
    slug
    reassemble
    clean
    riccochet
    head shot
    split
    quick reload
    slug
    clean

    and if I can squeeze it in blank
    Lead shot with buffs up. You're lowering your dps by going hot shot, leadshot instead of buffing up and then hotshot -> lead shot.

    Eye for an eye? What?
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    spelley's Avatar
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    Light Seeker
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    Lancer Lv 67
    Quote Originally Posted by VitalSuit View Post
    Eye for an eye? What?
    Pretty sure meant Blood for Blood.
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    Tarra Netsky
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    Quote Originally Posted by spelley View Post
    Pretty sure meant Blood for Blood.
    I would say that's true except he says this right after "I have e4e b4b and rapid fire in a macro cause I am running out of space on hot bars"

    Maybe he meant Hawks Eye?
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    Dervy Yakimi
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    HI!

    WTB x1 perfect GCD + oCD alligned Machinist 2m+ parse. Don't mind the DPS. WTT x1 set of preliminary stat-weights in the next few weeks.
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    whats perfect to you w

    the rng nature throws it off a bit (since on instant cast skills you can double weave)

    there's odowla and my parse vid if you just wanted like, baselines or something
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    Ellunavi Sevald
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aiurily View Post
    whats perfect to you w

    the rng nature throws it off a bit (since on instant cast skills you can double weave)

    there's odowla and my parse vid if you just wanted like, baselines or something
    We can probably figure in RNG. Basically do a Rotation and fill in all the chanced procs with some sort of counter.

    If we assume a 7 shots you would get 1120 Potency or 160 Potency per shot given perfect RNG. It wouldn't be perfect but it would be accurate enough for the purposes that Dervy has in mind (potentially). We would also assume that every Reload you be 1-2-3-1-2
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavieh View Post
    We can probably figure in RNG. Basically do a Rotation and fill in all the chanced procs with some sort of counter.

    If we assume a 7 shots you would get 1120 Potency or 160 Potency per shot given perfect RNG. It wouldn't be perfect but it would be accurate enough for the purposes that Dervy has in mind (potentially). We would also assume that every Reload you be 1-2-3-1-2
    the average potency etc is simple to guesstimate, it's just a problem of how to handle double oGCDs when RNG procs come into play. like for example, on my 2nd wildfire, if i have a proc lined up after the wildfire cast, it's really great because at the point in time i have like 4 oGCDs to go through usually (rapid, QR, head graze, gauss round, maybe blank).

    example

    clean shot saved>hot shot>(buffs)>lead shot>(wildfire)>clean shot>(GR+head graze)>split shit (quick reload+split shot procced)>slug shot (rapid fire+blank)>split shot>clean shot>split shot etc

    no proc saved >hot shot>(buffs)>lead shot>(wildfire)>split shot(no proc+gr)>split shot (no proc+head graze) > split shot (proc+QR) > slug shot (rapid+proc) > split shot (blank) > clean shot etc

    in the first one it doesn't take long to unload your oGCDs because you saved a proc to take advantage of double oGCDs, but in the second one, you didn't have a proc and you're unlucky, so your OGCD order is messed up or delayed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aiurily View Post
    the average potency etc is simple to guesstimate, it's just a problem of how to handle double oGCDs when RNG procs come into play. like for example, on my 2nd wildfire, if i have a proc lined up after the wildfire cast, it's really great because at the point in time i have like 4 oGCDs to go through usually (rapid, QR, head graze, gauss round, maybe blank).

    Fair enough. Probably best if we just assume one oGCD per GCD during the second Wildfire. It comes pretty close to the 2 minute mark anyway so it may not make a difference in this example.
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    Jaidyn Sinclaire
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    Excalibur
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Aiurily View Post
    a(wildfire)>clean shot>(GR+head graze)>split shit (quick reload+split shot procced)>slug shot (rapid fire+blank)>split shot>clean shot>split shot etc
    1st: What is a "Split Shit" and why don't i have one (couldn't resist)
    2nd: And a more on topic question, anyone have a crossbar layout they can share?
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    Ryaz Darksbane
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Seezur_Undies View Post
    1st: What is a "Split Shit" and why don't i have one (couldn't resist)
    2nd: And a more on topic question, anyone have a crossbar layout they can share?
    It's what happens when you pinch the loaf off too early.

    As for the second, I play PC, so no crossbars for me.
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