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    Odowla Wetae
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    They have to.

    Machinist holds the same raid slot as a Bard.

    If one is /vastly/ superior to the other, the other just simply is not viable. AT ALL.

    So in order to balance MCH/BRD, they need to do comparable damage (one CAN be better than the other slightly, ofc), with comparable raid utility. They currently have both - with the problem being that their abilities post 50 are kind of just.. not good enough to warrant taking away their assets. (believe it or not, safe, mobile damage IS utility in a raid setting.)

    tl;dr buffing brd = mch buffs
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    Ephier Samoht
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odowla View Post
    They have to.

    Machinist holds the same raid slot as a Bard.

    If one is /vastly/ superior to the other, the other just simply is not viable. AT ALL.

    So in order to balance MCH/BRD, they need to do comparable damage (one CAN be better than the other slightly, ofc), with comparable raid utility. They currently have both - with the problem being that their abilities post 50 are kind of just.. not good enough to warrant taking away their assets. (believe it or not, safe, mobile damage IS utility in a raid setting.)

    tl;dr buffing brd = mch buffs
    -Looks at SMN's after thunder nerf- Took them a looooooooooooong time to deal with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ephier View Post
    -Looks at SMN's after thunder nerf- Took them a looooooooooooong time to deal with that.
    Sure, but summoners were actually DESTROYING every other DPS in the game by a significant margin, lol. that change put them in line with everyone else ( relatively ofc)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odowla View Post
    Sure, but summoners were actually DESTROYING every other DPS in the game by a significant margin, lol. that change put them in line with everyone else ( relatively ofc)
    True. All we can do is pray. If it remains broken going to hope on the BRD bandwagon til they fix it I guess. Share the same gear anyway. '-'
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Off topic but if any of you have played since the hotfix what are you doing about GB?
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    Crysta Elizabeth
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    Lamia
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kasmiya View Post
    Off topic but if any of you have played since the hotfix what are you doing about GB?
    same as bard, you can swap it on at pre-fight and during a phase skip for some burst, of course having to apply hot/lead shots without the auto attack causes more dps to be lost so...yea
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    Shika Naito
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrSmiley View Post
    same as bard, you can swap it on at pre-fight and during a phase skip for some burst, of course having to apply hot/lead shots without the auto attack causes more dps to be lost so...yea
    basically what I am gonna be going with. basically means blow your cds when their off cause wildfire during a fight isn't gonna be beefy anymore
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    Alright thank you
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    Asclepius Windwalker
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    I know people saying that the video posted was cherry picked and lucky crits etc. However he did pull 930 or 990 i forget in with GB up 100%. So not all hope is lost, yes i agree movement but thats same as BLMs. We have ability to store up procs to to use them for movement.

    honestly most bosses have a pattern, so we need to get down the pattern and then work around that (not easy, not saying we will be better then any other class but should be doable). I remember when I was healing, i'd memorize fights and then heal cast timers based on that. (different i know however similar)
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    Excel Kobayashi
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Anyone have any parses to compare the rotations for "Always on Gauss Barrel" vs Gauss Barrel only on during the Wildfire boost rotation?

    R.I.P. Rapid Fire + Gauss Barrel - To me you were a feature, not a bug.
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    Glory to Mankind

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