Shots Fired: A Machinist Guide

[Zorzi]

So as I just learned, faint from DRG is instant cast while under the effect of gauss barrel.

Also another thing in the opener, you have Wildfire -> Rapid fire -> Gauss.

If you have higher latency I suggest you swap wild fire and rapid fires position so you do not get a cast time to put gauss barrel on (that you cannot cancel btw >:|)

(sorry for nit picking) '-'

For any one who gets this lag, you may also want to wait a bit after turning Gauss off to use Split Shot. You can get the same uninterruptable cast time. What makes it extra hilarious is when you get a proc halfway through the "cast"... I'm guessing that means it's uninterruptable because the server doesn't think you're casting at all? Maybe if SE thinks its possible to abuse they'll fix it.

[Emilita]

I'm encountering a slight dilemma right now wherein my reload/qr doesnt phase properly with my 2nd wildfire/gauss barrel chance (after 90 seconds of opener). Should I delay reload for a whole 30 seconds?

[Cascadi]

I'm encountering a slight dilemma right now wherein my reload/qr doesnt phase properly with my 2nd wildfire/gauss barrel chance (after 90 seconds of opener). Should I delay reload for a whole 30 seconds?

Hey, I modified the sim to run these two options for 270s each and here are the results with 1000 simulations:

Option 1: Delay all by 30s buffs so it lines up with Reload @ 120s
70591 avg

Option 2: Don't delay Reload or buffs and use them whenever they are up
70811 avg

Option 3: Delay Reload by 30s to line up with 90s buffs
70265 avg

It doesn't really matter, tailor it to your preferences or to the fight, depending on if you need burst or not, if the boss is going invulnerable, etc.

[Ryaz]

Am I the only one who feels that split shots proc rate is less than 50%? I can't count how many times I've gone 5,6 or even 7 shots in a row without a prof, yet I've never had more than two in a row actually proc. It happens constantly when reload and quick reload are on cooldown.

[SovereignAegis]

Am I the only one who feels that split shots proc rate is less than 50%? I can't count how many times I've gone 5,6 or even 7 shots in a row without a prof, yet I've never had more than two in a row actually proc. It happens constantly when reload and quick reload are on cooldown.

It does feel lower than 50% for both tiers. I have gotten WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY more non-procs than procs from 30-50.

And no that isn't from bias, it's called it really was more non procs.

[Ryaz]

It does feel lower than 50% for both tiers. I have gotten WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY more non-procs than procs from 30-50.

And no that isn't from bias, it's called it really was more non procs.

You see, that's the weird thing. Slug Shot seem to proc Cleaner Shot fine for me. Doesn't always, but enough to feel like it's at 50%. I only have a problem with Split Shot proccing enhanced slug shot.

[Atigeve]

Have we come close to understanding or knowing what the Stat Weights are yet? I ask bc atm I am only 57, but stacking Crit and Det both and doing alright, but i can not seem to shake the thought of how skill speed would affect both the frequency of all abilities, but also how it affects our DoT. Struggling to find a happy medium, sorry I am not smarter i would try to figure out all this on my own, and maybe im just thinking to much about it, but still has me curious of your ladies and gentlemen's opinions.

[Cascadi]

Have we come close to understanding or knowing what the Stat Weights are yet? I ask bc atm I am only 57, but stacking Crit and Det both and doing alright, but i can not seem to shake the thought of how skill speed would affect both the frequency of all abilities, but also how it affects our DoT. Struggling to find a happy medium, sorry I am not smarter i would try to figure out all this on my own, and maybe im just thinking to much about it, but still has me curious of your ladies and gentlemen's opinions.

Hey, we can't figure out Stat Weights until the damage formula for Heavensward has been determined, however, just by judging from the skills we will probably be similar to the Dragoon's Stat Weights pre-HW.

Weapon Damage > Determination > Critical Hit Rate > Skill Speed

We only have access to 1 DoT, the buff to Skill Speed doesn't affect us as much.However, there is probably a set amount of Skill Speed that allows us to get off one more GCD before Wildfire expires, like how Warriors needed a certain amount of Skill Speed to fit in an extra GCD before Berserk went off. We don't benefit from Crit resetting Bloodletter procs like Bard, and with the current state of Gauss Barrel, autos compose a hefty % of our damage, so if Determination is alike to pre-HW on autos it will be Det > Crit.

[PlumpyMcduff]

@Cascadi, you're still touting that your 11 ammo opener is optimal but you've yet to prove it.

You keep purposefully selling the method short & neglecting the case(s) that this method drops off after 1 minute.

Please stop misleading people until you've proven it.

Correctly, you should say, "optimal for fights under 1 minute until it's been proven optimal past 1 minute."

[Cascadi]

@Cascadi, you're still touting that your 11 ammo opener is optimal but you've yet to prove it.

You keep purposefully selling the method short & neglecting the case(s) that this method drops off after 1 minute.

Have you played Machinist and seen how stacks of ammo work? You get access to 5 ammo at the start of the fight with both Reload and Quick Reload off CD once you use the 5 ammo... you can go into any opener after that, there's literally no downside to using Reload 50s pre-pull, just that it is a hassle.