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    Player
    Valkyrie_Lenneth's Avatar
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Jenova
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    Viper Lv 100
    Gilgamesh is a new server from the launch of 2.0. It is NOT a legacy server. It was impossible to know the 2 most populated NA servers would be on Aether. If they had locked transfers, people would be complaining. They didn't lock transfers, people are complaining. SE can't win here.
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    Saccharin's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Gilgamesh is a new server from the launch of 2.0. It is NOT a legacy server. It was impossible to know the 2 most populated NA servers would be on Aether. If they had locked transfers, people would be complaining. They didn't lock transfers, people are complaining. SE can't win here.
    Oh, ok then. True but they could pick the option that is better in the long run, i.e. locking for a longer period.
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    Rubeus Carcer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saccharin View Post
    Oh, ok then. True but they could pick the option that is better in the long run, i.e. locking for a longer period.
    server lockouts mean nothing. You can, for example, create new characters on Hyperion, even though it's said basically since 2.0's launch that the server is "restricted" and "full." Test for yourself: log into Primal at 3 am and make a new character on Hyperion, when the active population is at a low point. The problem is that all throughout 2.0's lifespan, people have done this, to include Balmung and Gilgamesh. Is that ALSO poor design? Yes. But people would complain they couldn't create a character and play with their friends without some kind of stopgap. They can't win, Lenneth is right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubeus_Carcer View Post
    server lockouts mean nothing. You can, for example, create new characters on Hyperion, even though it's said basically since 2.0's launch that the server is "restricted" and "full." Test for yourself: log into Primal at 3 am and make a new character on Hyperion, when the active population is at a low point. The problem is that all throughout 2.0's lifespan, people have done this, to include Balmung and Gilgamesh. Is that ALSO poor design? Yes. But people would complain they couldn't create a character and play with their friends without some kind of stopgap. They can't win, Lenneth is right.
    By a longer period I mean 24 hours and maybe weeks.
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    JaderauntOnJenova's Avatar
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    Jaderaunt Desmoulins
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Gilgamesh is a new server from the launch of 2.0. It is NOT a legacy server. It was impossible to know the 2 most populated NA servers would be on Aether. If they had locked transfers, people would be complaining. They didn't lock transfers, people are complaining. SE can't win here.
    What's bad is that a lot of newer players like me on PS4 are on Jenova. It's a low pop server (maybe the lowest). Very small queues during early access 16 was the highest I saw) but this 2002 issue is due to the high pop severs we're grouped with.

    So while having small queues are awesome, it doesn't even mstter if you can't even access the specific server.
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Adamantoise
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    Blacksmith Lv 90
    Should have offered free server transfer before the new xpac hit

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    Evangela's Avatar
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    Evangela Monterossa
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    Should have offered free server transfer before the new xpac hit

    they didn't even offer us 30 days sub by purchasing CE. what a damn joke.
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    Catwho's Avatar
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    Katarh Mest
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    Lamia
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    Balmung was my 1.0 server. Everyone in my old FC rolled new characters elsewhere, so I had no reason to stick around. I personally got weirded out by people RPing in public places constantly while I was trying to do mundane story things. So I paid the transfer fee and yoinked my Legacy Lala over to Lamia where my 2.0 main lived when the population problems really got serious.

    Free transfers off the data center are the only solution. There are 1.0 players who feel like they shouldn't have to move, especially if it costs money - it's not their fault their old server got invaded by RPers. There are individuals who don't want to move unless their entire FC movies.

    Make a new server on Primal or re-designate the lowest population server existing as the official RP server. Offer free transfers off Balmung and Gilgamesh to select servers (Lamia is also high population and doesn't need anyone transferring over en masse.)
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    Evangela's Avatar
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    Evangela Monterossa
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catwho View Post
    Balmung was my 1.0 server. Everyone in my old FC rolled new characters elsewhere, so I had no reason to stick around. I personally got weirded out by people RPing in public places constantly while I was trying to do mundane story things. So I paid the transfer fee and yoinked my Legacy Lala over to Lamia where my 2.0 main lived when the population problems really got serious.

    Free transfers off the data center are the only solution. There are 1.0 players who feel like they shouldn't have to move, especially if it costs money - it's not their fault their old server got invaded by RPers. There are individuals who don't want to move unless their entire FC movies.

    Make a new server on Primal or re-designate the lowest population server existing as the official RP server. Offer free transfers off Balmung and Gilgamesh to select servers (Lamia is also high population and doesn't need anyone transferring over en masse.)
    what? of all the problems, RPers annoy you the most?

    make RPers run away from you, not the other way around.
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    Linadae's Avatar
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    Dracyn Navarre
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Catwho View Post
    Balmung was my 1.0 server. Everyone in my old FC rolled new characters elsewhere, so I had no reason to stick around. I personally got weirded out by people RPing in public places constantly while I was trying to do mundane story things. So I paid the transfer fee and yoinked my Legacy Lala over to Lamia where my 2.0 main lived when the population problems really got serious.

    Free transfers off the data center are the only solution. There are 1.0 players who feel like they shouldn't have to move, especially if it costs money - it's not their fault their old server got invaded by RPers. There are individuals who don't want to move unless their entire FC movies.

    Make a new server on Primal or re-designate the lowest population server existing as the official RP server. Offer free transfers off Balmung and Gilgamesh to select servers (Lamia is also high population and doesn't need anyone transferring over en masse.)
    I'm sorry but I have to correct you there about the rpers. We didn't 'invade'. Back in 1.0 we were on a different server that was merged with Balmung. So the Legacy RPers stayed with Balmung. New players who wanted to roleplay and didn't care about Legacy went to Balmung as well. Others chose Gilgamesh. All because Yoshida has repeatedly refused to name an official rp server. Otherwise we'd all be there.

    And free server transfers would never work unless they lifted that stupid money cap...a lot of people on Balmung have tens of millions of gil and they WON'T leave that behind willingly.

    My suggestion is lift the cap temporarily for just the free transfers for ONLY the over congested servers. That way the people who would love to leave would no longer have a reason to stay.
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    Last edited by Linadae; 06-22-2015 at 03:40 AM.

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