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    Player papichulo123's Avatar
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    Frederick Chronos
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    Lamia
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    Goldsmith Lv 70

    so defiance doesn't increase crit anymore only parry?

    ??? I'm just wondering
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    wonka11's Avatar
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    Furious George
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    Marauder Lv 60
    LOL really?
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    Alchemist Lv 50
    Yeah wtf.....
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    Argyle Darkheart
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    Pure garbage.
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    Perceval Haizen
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    Shiva
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Really? I just switched between the two stances and my parry stat didn't increase at all, or is it some hidden factor that won't show up on the character screen, like the crit % raise?

    P.S. I'm using the german interface, my tooltip actually still says "increases crit chance by 2% for every wrath stack when using Defiance"
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    Paikis Pryslack
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    Wrath tooltip says Parry, Defiance tooltip says Wrath gives crit. Either way it isn't a huge deal and people crying about this need to get a grip.

    10% crit works out to average 5% damage, not a huge amount. 10% parry works out to be 2% mitigation against only Physical damage. If you're complaining about the loss of damage, you need to realise that Defiance is a tanking stance, and if you want your 5% extra damage back, you can go ahead and use the damage stance and you'll get double that, as well as some really high potency extra abilities. And if you're (on reddit) complaining that the Parry bonus goes away when you use Inner Beast, you need to realise just how small that parry bonus is, and think about how many tank busters are parryable anyway.

    Not that I expect this to happen, the majority of people who played WAR back when it had extra heals on Wrath were convinced that holding their stacks was a better idea than using them to get a huge heal.

    People will cry about the silliest of things.
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    Blackiron Tarkus
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    maybe switch to Deliverance?
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    A'lyhhia Tahz
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Well, it would have been terribly unimaginative if both Wrath and Abandon did the same thing. Now we've got Tanking on the Tank Stance and Damage on the DPS Stance. How... appropriate.

    For those distracted by the idea that there's no point in Wrath giving Parry when you use it to absorb the big hit anyway: what this will do in the end is make WAR better at dealing with autoattacks. Which is also appropriate because autoattacks are the only thing we can ever reasonably rely on Parry to help with anyway.
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    Your Character
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paikis View Post
    Wrath tooltip says Parry, Defiance tooltip says Wrath gives crit.
    apparently jp tooltip says parry on both wrath and defiance tooltips
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    Player papichulo123's Avatar
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    i wasn't complaining just confirming makes sense its a tank stance mitigate damage
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