New jobs

[Sainted]

I agree with Orsonriven this is a suggestion forum, I think this hasn't netted Square Enix the profit influx they wanted because of this action. Money is king not story or quests it's dollars and if you want to make more you change things, the first iterations of this game I heard were awful but this current game is amazing and has potential that could outstrip WOW. Now if you laugh because World of Warcraft sucks well at 14.99 a month at it's height 30 million ($449,700,000. a month) subscribers make most people choke. No one new no matter how much increase in XP is gonna want to start at level 1 to go to level 50 get through to 2.55 MSQ to go back to level 30 and do 30 levels all over? Now it could be they have given it considerable thought and decided this was key but given I have heard no news that Square Enix has gotten a huge increase in subs since early access leads to the conclusion that this decision was wrong like it or not.

[orsonriven]

Yeah it has a good story .... Now, I did play during 1.0 and it was bad, yoshi p did a great job, but I can't say how long I will play this game or not, people have lives, and while story progression is a huge part and one I like, I repeat ( the jobs being locked behind all of 2.55 is POINTLESS) this part of the game doesn't progress any part of the story. They didn't lock thief or nin to the story they just put it out at lol 10, regardless, this post is me telling square a suggestion, don't lock jobs to the main quests.

[BioDio]

They could make the jobs locked by level (have a class hit level 50 or something), like WoW did with Death Knight, and ofc, you needed to have the expansion to use it.

Having it locked via story was kinda - not the best solution - thing. I'm using an Astro and loving it... can't seem to find a reason to have it locked behind story, if I had to go back to older zones to level it...

I can't seem to find a positive point in this decision =\

[Socomlord]

At this point in the games life they are aiming to please the people who have subscribed the longest. That being said I see your point, if your not up to that content then by all means Walt on buying it. But for everyone else zip it, it's fine the way it is.

[BioDio]

At this point in the games life they are aiming [...] everyone else zip it, it's fine the way it is.

Why do you guys have that mentality?
It's already hard to make people play an MMO and stick to it nowadays, why make the first step harder? I don't want FF14 to go F2P, I want it full of people, the more the merrier.

I would've been really mad if I couldn't play Astro right away. It's one class that I wanted to play in an MMO, the other is Dancer, I would be very discouraged if I had to play a class that I don't want, just to get to a point, MANY DAYS later, where I could actually start playing with the class I wanted.

As soon as Astro got announced, I stopped playing FF14, just waiting for the expansion. There was no use for me to continue to gear up my bard if I was gonna drop it. I can only imagine what it might feel like to have to select a class you don't wanna play just to get to the one you actually want, it must kill all your hype.

[Lathander81]

[QUOTE=BioDio;3056640]Why do you guys have that mentality?
It's already hard to make people play an MMO and stick to it nowadays, why make the first step harder? I don't want FF14 to go F2P, I want it full of people, the more the merrier.

The first step is not any harder than when you started the game. Its quite the opposite, they are doing what it takes to make long term players and they dont want players who want to jump on the next expansion hype. You know as well as everyone else they have to play other classes to play the new ones effectively anyway. I think everyone needs to look at the big picture.

[orsonriven]

And as it seems other people here see it the same way as me, now I'm not saying open up all of the game before the story is finished, the end story of ver 2 is great and some of the best work squares done in along time IMO, but players should be able to talk about what the see as problems, which is what I did and others have too, keep in mind I played ff11 and loved the story but the game was a pain in the but to get anything done if you weren't a pld or whm. In the end their is still people who play who think the job lock is a bad idea, is their opinion any less than yours? I do want to thank you for speaking your views too, like I said you make some very valid points.

[orsonriven]

I look forwards to other things that come out, but like I said there is still no reason to lock the jobs behind a story wall. With them trying to get New players in the game and to buy HW then lock all of the new jobs is not a good idea, people have lives and biodio is right, people shouldn't have to play through all of the old content as a class that's not what they want, it's time wasted and money wasted for some people. And focusing on only long time player hurts the game, the New players feel like they are on the outside, these are also people that play the game and will maybe be friends later down the road with you, if they buy the expan then the jobs can easily be unlocked at 30 or hell even lvl 50.

[Lathander81]

Perhaps you are looking at this in the wrong way. Instead of looking at this as punishment, you should view this as a right of passage to play the expansion. The truth is life is not fair and people should be treated differently. If you have been playing this game for a long while, put in the time to do the story and other jobs then you have earned to right to play the expansion along with the new jobs. To be honest, I respect Squares decision. They worked hard on on the content and I'm glad they still make it relevant to keep the whole world of the game alive instead of having dead zones cause everyone is in the expansion only.

[Lathander81]

To comment on the jobs being locked. If you want to be effective at endgame you will need to level more than one class regardless. FF14 does a really good job of making all the jobs/classes important. Playing multiple classes and understanding how they work only makes you a better player. Also square has considered their new players...that is why you have to level in the older zones. To keep the whole world of the game still alive and not barren. Also older players get rewards for doing older dungeons and this also helps newer players. Square is a smart company and they are concerned about their game as a whole and not just what is fair. If you think its a waste for people to play thru the original game then maybe you picked the wrong MMO. There is a reason why FF14 is still around even after their catastrophe in 1.0.

That being said the older content is amazing and even alot of the side quest are really good. Imo buying the game only for the expansion is a waste of money.