New Bard feedback

[Yoruichi4478]

I just hit 60 this morning and I have to say that even w/o sidewinder at the time I found WM more of a nuisance to put on because unlike mnk's fists of earth wind and fire or a healer's cleric stance, WM goes on like a song, so you have to stop dpsing to sing it just like all our other songs. Plus I chose bard because of the following reasons: I played TERA while ffxiv was down during the alpha/beta phases til arr launch to check it out and keep busy, and got hooked on the mobility of all their dps classes there, even sorcerer, dps on the move? np. I like being ranged, but didn't care for ffxiv casters because they felt too slow after playing TERA. I wanted to be a ranged dps because I prefer it over melee (no offence melees, to each their own), and at the time til HW bard was the only choice out of all the jobs to suit me. I will be levelling machinist also but I hear they also get the mobility nerf when they get a turret/barrel skill later on.

[Yoruichi4478]

If I wanted to be a caster I'd have mained blm or smn, I chose bard for my love of mobility and that I wouldn't have to get an eye twitch seeing a cast bar after playing TERA for several months. We bards chose bard for our various reasons, but I am seeing alot of BRDs saying they loved the mobility option. I don't know where these nut bards are that said they'd trade their mobility for more dps numbers, but I wasn't one of them. Unless they fix something to make it more viable and fix the bugs, I can see alot of endgame bards that don't like this WM getting dragged kicking and screaming into using it because they're made to.
RIP BARD as we loved it.

[Takfloyd]

Meanwhile nearly every single Summoner skill has no cast time, and now we have instant nukes too!

This is just sweet revenge for bards and black mages laughing at us throughout ARR.

[StrejdaTom]

Just please stop telling people they don't have to use the minuet. It is wrong.
When we will get a bit info from parses and rotations etc., minuet will be probably "must use" and GL trying getting into EM farm party or Alexander Savage without using minuet.

I like minuet and I will get used to being a BLM. But don't tell me it added more possibilities to BRD, there are only 2. Use Minuet or get kicked from party.

And because minuet has a cast time, you won't be turning it on and off during fight. The cast time would hurt your average DPS badly. Any other DPS with casting times does in raids well and we will do well to. But forget about your movement, it is dead.

[SovereignAegis]

Machinist is even worse off than Bard. Yes really.

[Rose-Wild]

People don't get that the biggest issue is not the movement but that it barely gives any damage boost at all when you have real fights like primals and most Bards who killed the new primals don't even use it.

[Catwho]

WM is good for AOE pulls in dungeons. It's not so great for single target boss fights or for solo play where a bard needs to dance.

Doesn't help that Bloodletter + Rain of Death was glitched and wouldn't proc properly if you used them together. Did that get patched in the maintenance last night?

[Rose-Wild]

WM is good for AOE pulls in dungeons. It's not so great for single target boss fights or for solo play where a bard needs to dance.

Doesn't help that Bloodletter + Rain of Death was glitched and wouldn't proc properly if you used them together. Did that get patched in the maintenance last night?

No it din't get patched i don't even see it in accepted buggs and it's really game breaking because you can't attack for 15 secs...

[AkashiXI]

Meanwhile nearly every single Summoner skill has no cast time, and now we have instant nukes too!

This is just sweet revenge for bards and black mages laughing at us throughout ARR.

Solipsism is one helluva mindset.

[FateAudax]

I like it how people who's main isn't a bard telling us that the class is okay, lol. It's been discussed in this thread (http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...y-broke-my-job) and on reddit (http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...izards_are_mad).
I'm not sure how you guys can consider dps loss as okay. In summary, for those who says WM is a welcome change it means DPS is least of your concern.

The current change is not only a dps loss but is a complete overhaul to the reason why some of us players chose bard. It's due to the mobility and the lack of cast time.
There will be the standard "no one is forcing you to play bard" and "play melee instead, there's no cast time", that's just being condescending and not acknowledging the issue.
Furthermore, not that I want to touch any nerves but I don't think this issue can be understood to those who doesn't main a bard or doesn't plays a bard for their mobility.